Isn’t it nice to wake up in the morning and learn that sanity can still prevail — even when government committees are involved?
Tim Noakes, the victim of an inquisition triggered by an idiot dietician, was found not guilty of unprofessional conduct yesterday. Here are some quotes from a report by News24 in South Africa:
Professor Tim Noakes has been found not guilty of misconduct, a professional conduct committee found on Friday.
That’s the good news. Excellent news, in fact. The bad news is that Noakes was dragged before a committee in the first place. Read on to see just how ridiculous this entire episode was.
Noakes – whose book The Real Meal Revolution promotes a low-carbohydrate, high-fat (LCHF) diet – was charged with giving unconventional medical advice via Twitter two years ago after he advised a breastfeeding mother to wean her baby onto LCHF.
Charged with giving unconventional advice … riiiight, because the conventional dietary advice handed down since the 1970s has done such a bang-up job of improving people’s health worldwide.
The independent committee made its finding following a protracted hearing into a complaint by the former president of the Association for Dietetics in South Africa, Claire Julsing-Strydom. She had complained about Noakes giving advice relating to his LCHF diet on Twitter to a mother.
And why did Julsing-Strydom (the idiot dietitian) feel the need to bring charges? Was Noakes going around giving unsolicited, unconventional advice? Was he sneaking into people’s homes and feeding their kids an “unconventional” diet when the parents weren’t looking?
The mother’s tweet read: “@ProfTimNoakes @SalCreed is LCHF eating ok for breastfeeding mums? Worried about all the dairy + cauliflower = wind for babies?? [sic]” Noakes advised her to wean her child onto LCHF foods, which he described as “real” foods.
His tweet read: “Baby doesn’t eat the dairy and cauliflower. Just very healthy high-fat breast milk. Key is to ween [sic] baby onto LCHF.”
So there’s the basis for the witch hunt: a mother SPECIFICALLY ASKED NOAKES FOR ADVICE on Twitter, and he replied. His reply went against the arterycloggingsaturatedfat! and hearthealthywholegrains! nonsense promoted by the Axis of Incompetence, so one of its members decided she’d try to ruin his life and his career.
Earlier in the hearing, which started in 2015, witnesses for the HPCSA said a consultation was required before any advice could be given or diagnosis made.
A mother asks Noakes for advice online, and he’s supposed to tell her sorry, we need to have a consultation in my office? And what the @#$% kind of diagnosis is required in this situation? The mom didn’t say her baby had a strange rash and ask for an online prescription. She asked a question about diet … and since she asked Noakes, it means she obviously respects his opinion on the matter.
Noakes questioned why Leenstra, who ostensibly could have suffered harm, did not lay the charge. He argued he did not give advice on breastfeeding, but on weaning.
BINGO!! The mother who asked for advice didn’t complain. A dietitian who had nothing to do with the situation complained. This is, of course, what The Anointed are all about: restricting other people’s speech and freedoms — for their own good, of course.
Noakes alleged that Julsing-Strydom’s complaint was not centred on breastfeeding, but on the diet he advocates in his book, of which she did not approve.
Of course that was the basis of her complaint.
The HPCSA argues that Noakes gave unconventional and unscientific advice, and was unprofessional in his conduct for dispensing the advice via social media.
You want to see unscientific advice? Look no further than arterycloggingsaturatedfat! and hearthealthywholegrains!
As for giving advice via social media being unprofessional … does any sane person believe Julsing-Strydom and the other dietary fascists would have gone after a doctor who advised the mother to wean her baby on hearthealthywholegrains?
Out of curiosity, I just checked Twitter to see if The American Heart Association tweets dietary advice. Yup. I guess somebody needs to drag them before a committee for engaging in unprofessional conduct … you know, giving out advice online without a proper consultation and all that.
Two international witnesses testified in his defence – diet and health researcher Dr Zoe Harcombe from London, and investigative journalist Nina Teicholz from New York, who is the author of The Big Fat Surprise, which “explains the politics, personalities, and history of how we came to believe that dietary fat is bad for health”.
And bless you both, ladies.
Professor Willie Pienaar, a psychiatrist and part-time bioethicist, during the hearing said that doctors cannot give expert advice without consultation. He argued that Noakes had the opportunity to refer the mother to a general practitioner, and pointed out that he didn’t ask the age or health status of the baby.
“Professor Noakes, what foods should I feed my baby?”
“I’m sorry, Mom, I’ll have to refer you to a general practitioner who will give advice I believe with all my heart and soul is completely wrong.”
He said his main concern was that Noakes had given specialist advice via social media and that consultation was key to giving the correct diagnosis.
Again, exactly what kind of diagnosis is required when a mother asks for general dietary advice? What diagnosis does the American Heart Association make before going online and telling people to replace butter with corn and canola oil?
Expert witness Professor Este Vorster, a former president of the Nutrition Society of SA, said Noakes could not give convincing evidence that his was the optimal diet for lactating mothers.
The Anointed can’t give convincing evidence that vegetable oils and grains are the optimal diet. But they’ll keep pushing them and occasionally conduct a witch-hunt when a prominent doctor dares to disagree. Thank goodness The Anointed lost this round. Let’s hope they lose many, many more.
In the meantime, let’s celebrate the decision — even though there never should have been a trial in the first place — and applaud Tim Noakes for having the backbone to stand up to these bullies.
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I’m certainly applauding! I was afraid when I first heard about this case that the idiots promoting those heart healthy whole grains would win. I would just love to see, just one time, someone who has consulted one of these idiots, followed their advice and gone on to become sick,obese and diabetic SUE them for a change!!
That’s the thing … has anyone ever seen countless people flocking to social media to describe how following the “conventional” dietary advice turned their lives around?
This is great news. I think we should all go to SA and join the party!
The HPCSA said that concludes the trial
and that there would be “no penalty” for
Dr Noakes. Wait, 3 years of antagonistic
hearings costing xxxxxx dollars is “no
penalty”?
Morons.
Excellent news! Here is a clip from an Australian News program. A chiropractor down there came under fire for giving an adjustment to an infant. He gets raked over the coals and is so flustered that he comes off looking awful. The show never follows up on the health of the baby nor do they bring the parents in for comments (after all they’re the ones that went to him). There are a couple of moments when guests on the show talked about the value they received in chiropractic care but were cut off by the hysterical hosts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYNZc_ltY30
Comments were disabled. No doubt during the commercial breaks they ran ads for BigPharm.
Of course comments are disabled. That’s how these people operate. They’re all about stifling dissent.
The AHA are the biggest pack of idiots ever. “Use vegetable oils” is a disastrous recommendation.
Thank goodness, though, that Noakes was exonerated.
That made my LCHF lunch taste much better! *raises cup of tea to Dr Noakes*
BTW — if you don’t follow Zoe Harcombe’s blog/newsletter, it’s worth a read. She gets deep into analysis of all sorts of “scientific” studies of nutrition and health.
I do follow her, yes.
Yes, lets celebrate. Dr. Noakes is no longer practicing medicine. Losing that license would have cost him nothing. Defending common sense and truth would cost millions. The lawyer took on this case pro-bona. Dr. Noakes stood up to the anointed to put an end to this kind of bullying and to make sure when people hear banting or LCHF the first thing they don’t think is “quack”.
He’s now my hero. That took some real backbone.
Good news. Hope we all can stand up the anointed when they come after us.
They lost when going against Annika Dahlqvist in Sweden, they lost going against Steve Cooksey, now they’ve lost against Noakes. I think they maybe be fighting the Battle of the Bulge now (no pun intended), trying desperately to take back lost ground.
“The HPCSA argues that Noakes gave unconventional and unscientific advice…”
Unconventional… perhaps. Although the conventions are changing rapidly.
Unscientific… no. Science does not progress by counting heads. Truth is truth, even if for the time being no one believes it.
Science progresses one funeral at a time.
Never heard of canola oil before, so i googled it. Must say, i’m quite shocked that something like that can be marketed as food, not to mention as “healthy” food. It was used as fuel for lanterns, and grease for steam engines, and unless refined, containes stuff that is very harmful to heart and blood vessels. Even more shocking that this advice is coming from the people whose job is to keep our hearts safe and healthy. What will they reccomend next, WD-40?
P.S: Vegetable oils – blegh.
You’ve never heard of canola? You must have just woken up from a long nap, Mr. Van Winkle. It’s been promoted as the new heart-healthy oil for decades.
I live in Ukraine, so the wave hasn’t reached here yet, i guess. The only time when i’ve heard about canola was some decade ago in the context of making biodiesel.
P.S: your movie helped me to cure my depression:D
Excellent news!
I’ve recently had a doctor tell me that he legally couldn’t give me any nutritional advice via email, when I asked for some clarification on something he said in a YouTube video. I imagine that doctors that go against the ‘norm’ are a bit nervous because of this kind of thing. Sad, really. Why can’t people, like Julsing-Strydom mind their own business?
The Anointed would rather mind your business than theirs. That’s what makes them who they are.
I’m certainly applauding! I was afraid when I first heard about this case that the idiots promoting those heart healthy whole grains would win. I would just love to see, just one time, someone who has consulted one of these idiots, followed their advice and gone on to become sick,obese and diabetic SUE them for a change!!
That’s the thing … has anyone ever seen countless people flocking to social media to describe how following the “conventional” dietary advice turned their lives around?
My grandpa did after 78 yrs of age he found he had mostly blocked arteries to the point where his body had grown new ones to compensate. The plaque was so hard it broke the drill tip during the first procedure and they had to order in a special diamond tipped one and do the procedure again. He was told his condition was just genetic. But in the state he lived they forced him to do a “heart healthy” nutrition/cooking course for 12 weeks afterwards prompting Logicol margarine and no salt and basically opposite everything he had done for 78 years. 2yrs later he was back in having the same procedure!! Well done heart healthy a-holes!! He’s now 88yrs and losing his mind. He was also told that he didn’t need to drink more than 250ml of water a day but 8-10 cups of green tea and coffee are awesome!!
This is great news. I think we should all go to SA and join the party!
The HPCSA said that concludes the trial
and that there would be “no penalty” for
Dr Noakes. Wait, 3 years of antagonistic
hearings costing xxxxxx dollars is “no
penalty”?
Morons.
Great news! Next can we get Dr. Gary Fettke’s gag order lifted?
Let’s hope. This nonsense by the dietary fascists has to stop.
Excellent news! Here is a clip from an Australian News program. A chiropractor down there came under fire for giving an adjustment to an infant. He gets raked over the coals and is so flustered that he comes off looking awful. The show never follows up on the health of the baby nor do they bring the parents in for comments (after all they’re the ones that went to him). There are a couple of moments when guests on the show talked about the value they received in chiropractic care but were cut off by the hysterical hosts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYNZc_ltY30
Comments were disabled. No doubt during the commercial breaks they ran ads for BigPharm.
Of course comments are disabled. That’s how these people operate. They’re all about stifling dissent.
The AHA are the biggest pack of idiots ever. “Use vegetable oils” is a disastrous recommendation.
Thank goodness, though, that Noakes was exonerated.
Well that’s a relief not only for him, but for everyone else in the country.
That made my LCHF lunch taste much better! *raises cup of tea to Dr Noakes*
BTW — if you don’t follow Zoe Harcombe’s blog/newsletter, it’s worth a read. She gets deep into analysis of all sorts of “scientific” studies of nutrition and health.
I do follow her, yes.
Yes, lets celebrate. Dr. Noakes is no longer practicing medicine. Losing that license would have cost him nothing. Defending common sense and truth would cost millions. The lawyer took on this case pro-bona. Dr. Noakes stood up to the anointed to put an end to this kind of bullying and to make sure when people hear banting or LCHF the first thing they don’t think is “quack”.
He’s now my hero. That took some real backbone.
There is a chiropractor in Australia who knows his plight that would adjust that backbone. He could probably use it right now. 🙂
I’d say Noakes just proved his backbone is unusually strong.
Noakes won the battle but the system that brought the charges are still there. Tyranny still exists.
Exactly. It’s a bit like being found not guilty by a North Korean kangaroo court.
Good news. Hope we all can stand up the anointed when they come after us.
They lost when going against Annika Dahlqvist in Sweden, they lost going against Steve Cooksey, now they’ve lost against Noakes. I think they maybe be fighting the Battle of the Bulge now (no pun intended), trying desperately to take back lost ground.
Unfortunately they won against Gary Fettke in Australia. 🙁
Let’s hope that decision can be turned around at some point.
I think I’ve read that it looks as if they don’t have any teeth in that victory.
He is pushing the ruling, and they can’t seem to respond. I believe there are a few politicians in Australia that are asking what is going on.
Australia is in for some very interesting times if they are not careful. They are destroy their base load power generation capacity if a few of their states, push towards renewables, and energy intensive industries (like Aluminum smelting) are getting really nervous. Add in their automobile manufacturing is just about gone, and their biggest (by far) export is ore and other raw minerals to China.
I wish the best to the country, but pass the popcorn.
“The HPCSA argues that Noakes gave unconventional and unscientific advice…”
Unconventional… perhaps. Although the conventions are changing rapidly.
Unscientific… no. Science does not progress by counting heads. Truth is truth, even if for the time being no one believes it.
Science progresses one funeral at a time.
“unconventional and unscientific advice. Notice just unscientific advice does not get you into trouble if it’s conventional.
Never heard of canola oil before, so i googled it. Must say, i’m quite shocked that something like that can be marketed as food, not to mention as “healthy” food. It was used as fuel for lanterns, and grease for steam engines, and unless refined, containes stuff that is very harmful to heart and blood vessels. Even more shocking that this advice is coming from the people whose job is to keep our hearts safe and healthy. What will they reccomend next, WD-40?
P.S: Vegetable oils – blegh.
You’ve never heard of canola? You must have just woken up from a long nap, Mr. Van Winkle. It’s been promoted as the new heart-healthy oil for decades.
I live in Ukraine, so the wave hasn’t reached here yet, i guess. The only time when i’ve heard about canola was some decade ago in the context of making biodiesel.
P.S: your movie helped me to cure my depression:D
Ah, now it makes sense. Canola got its name because the crop (rapeseed) is big in Canada. Long way from the Ukraine.
I’m delighted to hear Fat Head helped you cure your depression.
Sunflower oil is not a good option as well, at least it tastes much better
In Poland we are told rapeseed oil is the healthiest oil of all.
Yup, that’s what they tell us about canola (rapeseed) here.
AFAIK canola oil is the healthiest^W least unhealthy of the seed oils. IIRC soybean oil is about wurst.
Probably a tossup between that and corn oil.
А person told me he tried to buy a rapeseed oil every time he visited Poland on his trips from Russia because everybody was saying – it was the northern equivalent of an olive oil. Why to look for equivalents?
That’s certainly how it’s been promoted — as healthy as olive oil! In fact, many supposed olive oils sold today aren’t pure olive oil; they’re olive oil mixed with canola.
One of my new coworkers is from Bulgaria, and he complains about how sweet everything is. His wife made something using ground beef and the dish was sweet. So he did the engineering thing, trying to figure out were the recipe went wrong. He pulled the packaging out of the garbage and found that HFCS was added to the ground beef!
So yes, to many in the eastern Europe area, the US is most definitely a foreign land!
Sugar in beef. Good grief.
Nice rhyme!
As a person from Eastern Europe I am immune to much of local junk foods – which are too sweet to eat – cinnamon rolls, all sorts of cakes, ice cream, flavored yogurts, chocolate, most of hams, “ready to cook” meats which soaked in some mysterious solutions, pulled pork with souse made with vinegar and syrup, A bread in Eastern Europe is baked with no sugar. There are still fat people, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart attacks. Sugar is not the only problematic food substance.
I was born here and have lived in the USA my entire life. I still consider it a strange land.
Maybe you know it as rapeseed oil.
Excellent news!
I’ve recently had a doctor tell me that he legally couldn’t give me any nutritional advice via email, when I asked for some clarification on something he said in a YouTube video. I imagine that doctors that go against the ‘norm’ are a bit nervous because of this kind of thing. Sad, really. Why can’t people, like Julsing-Strydom mind their own business?
The Anointed would rather mind your business than theirs. That’s what makes them who they are.
Back in November, 2016, I had a process performed on my achilles tendon and foot called “dry needling”. Physical therapists use acupuncture needles on the trigger points where inflammation in the area takes place. Once in, they move the needle around in a circular motion to release tension in that point. It can be painful, albeit briefly, for a moment. I left the facility with a sore foot and ankle that lasted about a day. It wasn’t until a month ago that the problem arose again. That’s a good five months where my foot felt pretty good.
When I looked into making a follow up appointment, I was told that the AG’s office here in New Jersey banned its practice. I sent him a well worded e-mail singing the praises and suggested he get the procedure done on an area of his body that ached.
I never heard back.
Happens all the time. Nearly 30 years ago, I had a girlfriend in Chicago with various physical issues. She only got relief from a naturopath. Then Illinois outlawed naturopaths. My girlfriend was in tears. The excuse, of course, was to protect the public. The reality is that someone with political connections didn’t like the competition. In a supposedly free country, you should be able to employ the services of anyone you believe is worth what you’re spending.
I’ve been having issues with silent reflux, which isn’t suppose to happen on a LCHF diet. I was referred to a GI and I looked up her patient reviews and they hated her. One patient reported that she got a tongue lashing from said GI because the patient was seeking treatment from a naturopath!
Good thing you can look up reviews. You know that avoid that doctor.
Unfortunately you can still be sued by those who don’t like people telling others what you’re actually like.
As for reviews, one Australian website is run by a health insurance company and will accept only “constructive” reviews.
IME, gastroenterologists are completely, utterly useless.
I can get acid reflux if I eat too late at night, eat too much fat by itself, take vinegar by itself, or take certain medication.
More likely a hiatal hernia.
I do have a small one. It doesn’t bother me if I avoid the above (and too much carbage).
Great news! Next can we get Dr. Gary Fettke’s gag order lifted?
Let’s hope. This nonsense by the dietary fascists has to stop.
Well that’s a relief not only for him, but for everyone else in the country.
Noakes won the battle but the system that brought the charges are still there. Tyranny still exists.
Exactly. It’s a bit like being found not guilty by a North Korean kangaroo court.
Charged with giving unconventional advice …
What the H does that even mean?
That’s a fine question. Pretty sure it means “advice not approved by The Anointed.”
And don’t forget our own Dr Caryn Zinn from Auckland, New Zealand (formerly from South Africa) also gave evidence for Tim Noakes. She is a senior lecturer at AUT Auckland and is doing a brilliant job here promoting the LCHF lifestyle.
You are so right in calling this a witch hunt – now we just need to get Dr Gary Fettke off the hook for giving similar advice to diabetic patients.
The News24 article didn’t mention Zinn, but kudos to her for being part of the defense. Let’s hope Dr. Fettke scores a similar victory. These witch hunts need to stop. We all know the idiots bringing these charges wouldn’t bring them against doctors who recommended hearthealthywholegrains!, even though the basis of the charge is supposedly giving out advice in an appropriate manner, not the advice itself.
And don’t forget our own Dr Caryn Zinn from Auckland, New Zealand (formerly from South Africa) also gave evidence for Tim Noakes. She is a senior lecturer at AUT Auckland and is doing a brilliant job here promoting the LCHF lifestyle.
You are so right in calling this a witch hunt – now we just need to get Dr Gary Fettke off the hook for giving similar advice to diabetic patients.
The News24 article didn’t mention Zinn, but kudos to her for being part of the defense. Let’s hope Dr. Fettke scores a similar victory. These witch hunts need to stop. We all know the idiots bringing these charges wouldn’t bring them against doctors who recommended hearthealthywholegrains!, even though the basis of the charge is supposedly giving out advice in an appropriate manner, not the advice itself.
Great news!
What a great run.
Thanks for the post explaining everything.
Harming people by telling them to eat well and relax? What about the harm caused by telling people to take fluoxetine because they feel sad, and diclofenac because they feel pain all over, and to follow a low-calorie diet, low in protein (because of gout) and low in fat (because of strokes and heart disease), which makes people feel very anxious and deprived, and they end up eating sugary foods and feeling guilty and ever more weak and hopeless?
What devils came up with all this?
Science is a weapon in the hands of Politicians to use against the People.
The devils who came up with it are in bed with Big Pharma and Big Food.
I’m glad the case ended this way, but still disgusted that it happened in the first place. Let’s hope that in the future the self-appointed Anointed will think twice — and a few more times — before bringing anyone up on such a ridiculous charge. There should be a major penalty for the accusers in such cases. Just having egg all over their faces isn’t enough.
Let’s hope that somebody at the Australian Health Practitioner Registration Agency will take notice and rethink what they did to Gary Fettke, but I haven’t seen any flying pigs lately.
My thoughts exactly. Noakes won, but he won a case that should have never been filed.
Thank God Tim Noakes won. It would set a very bad precedent if he lost.
A question for the commentors and the host.
1)What’s a good cookbook that teaches you how to cook?
2) What’s a good low carb cookbook?
3) I’m going to the doctor soon. If I get my cholesterol checked, what type of test should I take if I have the option and what should I look for?
Lots of good books out there. I’d go to Amazon and look for books by Dana Carpender and Judy Barnes Baker.
If you have the option, ask for an NMR Lipoprofile. It will tell you about particle size and LDL will be directly measured, not just calculated. You’re less likely to get a doctor lecturing you if you can demonstrate that your LDL is large and fluffy vs. small and dense.
re: If you have the option, ask for an NMR Lipoprofile.
Ask anyway; the answer is apt to be telling.
Also ask for:
ApoB, CT calcium scan (NOT angiogram), Ferritin, HbA1c, hsCRP, hs (Gen 5) Troponin-T, Lp(a), Homocysteine, Omega 3 Index, Omega 6:3 ratio, thyroid (fT3, fT4, rT3, TAs, TSH), Vitamin D (25-OH Vitamin D3)
ApoE (one time) is important too, but you can tease that out of your 23andMe raw data (Ancestry test suffices).
Thanks Tom!
I’ll get an NMR Lipoprofile.
Good choice.
The overweight dietitian who made the complaint, Claire Julsing Strydom, is or was a consultant for Kellogg’s, something she now seems keen to erase from the record.
In yesterday’s Sunday Times Kellogg’s tactics in funding ‘studies’ that excused sugar and cereals was exposed in an article entitled ‘Kellogg’s Smothers Health Crisis in Sugar’. Strydom is also a friend of the egregious David Katz.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kelloggs-smothers-health-crisis-in-sugar-22lrvs0vp
And the worst part is, none of this surprises us anymore.
The overweight dietitian who made the complaint, Claire Julsing Strydom, is or was a consultant for Kellogg’s, something she now seems keen to erase from the record.
In yesterday’s Sunday Times Kellogg’s tactics in funding ‘studies’ that excused sugar and cereals was exposed in an article entitled ‘Kellogg’s Smothers Health Crisis in Sugar’. Strydom is also a friend of the egregious David Katz.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kelloggs-smothers-health-crisis-in-sugar-22lrvs0vp
And the worst part is, none of this surprises us anymore.
Some thing I saw on the Internet. “When a liberal(anointed) invokes science what they mean is shut up.”
Some thing I saw on the Internet. “When a liberal(anointed) invokes science what they mean is shut up.”
Hurray for Professor Noakes! But I agree that the bad news is that the “system” that cooked up these charges in the first place is still operating, and still pressuring people into eating in an unhealthy manner. I certainly hope Professor Noakes is able to recover his legal fees, as the winning party. . .
Agreed.
PS. Is it time to plug your new book, and also Gary Taubes’ “Case Against Sugar”?
I’m plugging away on ours. Sorry to say I haven’t had time to read Gary’s. It’s on my to-do list after the film is done.
My 15 month old has been eating a whole foods, moderately LC moderately HF diet since birth. No wheat or added sugars since she has been born. She’s had a very small amount of rice and potatoes but I figure big whoop. She’s super fat, healthy, sleeps well and doesn’t seem to get too crabby compared to her friends(my guess is because she doesn’t have wild insulin spikes followed by the inevitable drops). If we’re out, no need for Cheerios, freeze dried fruit works great. Also, she’s the only child in our daycare that doesn’t eat the morning snack because I’m the only one crazy enough to think that she doesn’t need a meal every 2 hours(who thought up this constant snacking?).She seems to be doing just fine. I’ll make sure to chime in about 10 years from now to give you another update haha.
I predict 10 years from now, she’ll be happy, healthy kid who does well in school and has never had a cavity. I base this prediction on the results of raising two girls without feeding them “healthy whole grains.”