A/V Weekend: The Dr. O Show, Lustig on Obesity, Saturated Fat Controversy

The Dr. O Show

I was recently interviewed on the Dr. O show.  No, not that Dr. O.  This Dr. O actually knows what he’s talking about when it comes to diet and health.

Some of you may recognize Dr. S. Andrei Ostric as a frequent contributor in the Fat Head Facebook group.  He’s a passionate and intelligent guy who recently decided to start producing his own Dr. O podcast show.  I hope he keeps at it and ends up on some national radio network.  We need people like him to offset the damage done by media doctors who push the same old anti-fat nonsense.

You can listen to our interview here.

 

Dr. Lustig featured in new seven-part series

Dr. Robert Lustig seems to be everywhere these days, including a recent appearance on 60 Minutes.  That appearance inspired at least one diabetic I know to seriously reconsider his diet.  (Fat Head apparently didn’t do the trick … oh well.)

The UCTV video channel is now featuring Dr. Lustig in a seven-part series on obesity.  Here’s the first episode:

 

Saturated Fat Praised on TV

In my recent speech, I explained why people are turning to the internet for alternative dietary advice that actually works.  It’s nice to see that stories about the benefits of a high-fat diet are also finding their way into more mainstream media, like this one from an Australian news channel featuring nutrition author Christine Cronau.

I couldn’t embed the video, but you can watch it here.

Naturally, we had to also see a dietitian warning the audience that tens of thousands of studies have linked saturated fat to heart disease and other diseases.

Tens of thousands?  Really?  I don’t know exactly how many observational studies anyone could find on that topic, but I doubt there are thousands.  If we did go through all the studies, we’d find that the supposed correlation is all over the place.  What matters are the clinical studies where researchers attempted to lower rates of heart disease with low-fat diets.  Those studies have been done, and they were all major flops.

I hope the people watching that news story see the kind of shape Christine Cronau is in and conclude that the dietitian is clueless … which she is.


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40 thoughts on “A/V Weekend: The Dr. O Show, Lustig on Obesity, Saturated Fat Controversy

  1. johnny

    Ms. tens of thousands of studies dietician sounds and looks so jealous and desperate, and unlike Christine only shows her head.

    Christine’s success has her suffering an identity crisis.

    I think the core classes in the dietitian education program teach students how to parrot the same advice over and over without questioning whether it’s true.

  2. johnny

    Ms. tens of thousands of studies dietician sounds and looks so jealous and desperate, and unlike Christine only shows her head.

    Christine’s success has her suffering an identity crisis.

    I think the core classes in the dietitian education program teach students how to parrot the same advice over and over without questioning whether it’s true.

  3. Joseph S.

    They had one of your favorite cutaways to a stock footage headless gut moving along through some sort of fog. Where do they get this stuff?

    I love the look on the interviewers face when she finds out she eats three eggs EVERY DAY!!

    I still wonder how the headless obese people feel when they spot themselves on the news.

  4. Janknitz

    I feel a little but sorry for RD’s who have based their entire careers on erroneous information (it must be horrible when that realization dawns on them) but I feel very sorry for their patients.

    Dr. Lustig has the world’s attention thanks to 60 Minutes so more people will pay attention to the uctv series. That’s great!

    I think that’s partly why dietitians (along with the ADA, AHA, etc.) can’t change their minds. Having to admit their advice has been wrong and possibly harmful for decades now … that’s a huge pill to swallow.

  5. DiscoStew

    The dietician beliefs are typical of most dieticans and nutritionists trained in the last few decades when fat was the enermy and carbs were our saviour. Personally, the last person I’d go to for dietary advice is a dietician or nutritionist….

    This dietician is yet another example of someone who doesn’t understand the difference between observational and clinical studies…..

    She needs to watch FatHead, read books by Gary Taubes, etc…

    And I think you’re right Tom: She’s just parroting what she was taught….

    DS

    I’m not sure reading GCBC or watching Fat Head would change their minds. Imagine having to admit your entire career was pointless and perhaps harmful.

  6. js290

    These same dieticians are also hating on Miley Cyrus getting all svelte on a “unhealthy” gluten-free (and lactose free) diet. Like you said in a previous post, Tom: “menace.”

    I can see (sort of) arguing that going gluten-free isn’t necessary for most people, but arguing that’s unhealthy requires willful ingorance.

  7. mezzo

    Trouble is, that – at least in this country, Germany – dietitians and nutritionists do not learn the facts in their study courses. The content of what they are taught are set by the national nutrition board (DGE) and these are people who still largely embrace and disseminate the diet-heart theory and advocate a high-carb, low-fat diet with saturated fat being the big villain. So when they graduate they will simply not know the science because it still gets ignored by the authorities. Which again proves the point that government should stay out and not give nutritional advice at all.

    And we’d all be better off if they didn’t.

  8. Joseph S.

    They had one of your favorite cutaways to a stock footage headless gut moving along through some sort of fog. Where do they get this stuff?

    I love the look on the interviewers face when she finds out she eats three eggs EVERY DAY!!

    I still wonder how the headless obese people feel when they spot themselves on the news.

  9. Janknitz

    I feel a little but sorry for RD’s who have based their entire careers on erroneous information (it must be horrible when that realization dawns on them) but I feel very sorry for their patients.

    Dr. Lustig has the world’s attention thanks to 60 Minutes so more people will pay attention to the uctv series. That’s great!

    I think that’s partly why dietitians (along with the ADA, AHA, etc.) can’t change their minds. Having to admit their advice has been wrong and possibly harmful for decades now … that’s a huge pill to swallow.

  10. DiscoStew

    The dietician beliefs are typical of most dieticans and nutritionists trained in the last few decades when fat was the enermy and carbs were our saviour. Personally, the last person I’d go to for dietary advice is a dietician or nutritionist….

    This dietician is yet another example of someone who doesn’t understand the difference between observational and clinical studies…..

    She needs to watch FatHead, read books by Gary Taubes, etc…

    And I think you’re right Tom: She’s just parroting what she was taught….

    DS

    I’m not sure reading GCBC or watching Fat Head would change their minds. Imagine having to admit your entire career was pointless and perhaps harmful.

  11. Nowhereman

    Is it my imagination or does that dietician sound like a religious fanatic? Also the TV show’s coverage of the subject is too short to really educate people. Why didn’t the reporter ask about the science and how Christine put it all together? It’s really just glossed over.

    That’s the nature of the beast with TV news.

  12. Annelie/Wildrat

    Incredible. Here in Sweden officials also argued there was tens of thousands studies that proved that saturated fat was bad for you. When asked to produce them they came up with… 72! When scrutinized by LCHF-people they found that of those 72 there actually was two (2!) that was about fat and where the conclusion was that saturated fat was bad for you… Some of the studies officials claimed on their side actually said saturated fat had no inpact on health so most likely they didn’t even bother to read any of them!

    Apparently they’re all taught the nonsense about thousands of studies, but never ask to see those studies.

  13. js290

    These same dieticians are also hating on Miley Cyrus getting all svelte on a “unhealthy” gluten-free (and lactose free) diet. Like you said in a previous post, Tom: “menace.”

    I can see (sort of) arguing that going gluten-free isn’t necessary for most people, but arguing that’s unhealthy requires willful ingorance.

  14. mezzo

    Trouble is, that – at least in this country, Germany – dietitians and nutritionists do not learn the facts in their study courses. The content of what they are taught are set by the national nutrition board (DGE) and these are people who still largely embrace and disseminate the diet-heart theory and advocate a high-carb, low-fat diet with saturated fat being the big villain. So when they graduate they will simply not know the science because it still gets ignored by the authorities. Which again proves the point that government should stay out and not give nutritional advice at all.

    And we’d all be better off if they didn’t.

  15. Nowhereman

    Is it my imagination or does that dietician sound like a religious fanatic? Also the TV show’s coverage of the subject is too short to really educate people. Why didn’t the reporter ask about the science and how Christine put it all together? It’s really just glossed over.

    That’s the nature of the beast with TV news.

  16. Annelie/Wildrat

    Incredible. Here in Sweden officials also argued there was tens of thousands studies that proved that saturated fat was bad for you. When asked to produce them they came up with… 72! When scrutinized by LCHF-people they found that of those 72 there actually was two (2!) that was about fat and where the conclusion was that saturated fat was bad for you… Some of the studies officials claimed on their side actually said saturated fat had no inpact on health so most likely they didn’t even bother to read any of them!

    Apparently they’re all taught the nonsense about thousands of studies, but never ask to see those studies.

  17. Oke

    The department of foodstuffs here in Sweden initially blustered about “thousands of studies” supporting their lo-fat advice.

    When pressed to specify the studies, this number was cut to 72 studies. They then made the critical mistake of actually providing references… What ensued was not pretty…

    Not pretty, but enlightening.

  18. Firebird7478

    A friend of mine is a nutritionist and has run his own vitamin shop for 25 years. He’s also a personal trainer, and counsels many men and women on weight loss. He freely and readily admits that what he learned in college and through medical journals over the years was wrong, and he is guilty of teaching it to his clients.

    Now that he knows the truth, he is having the difficult task of convincing his clients, especially women, to add fat back into the diet.

    I passed along the same anti-fat nonsense in a small health magazine 25+ years ago. If I’d known better and told people to skip the grains and eat more fat, I probably would have been fired.

  19. John

    How many of those tens of thousands of studies fed hydrogenated Crisco to rabbits, and then concluded “Saturated fat is bad for humans?”

    I also want to know how anyone who defends the lipid hypothesis can explain vitamin K2, the fat soluble vitamin that not only prevents arterial plaque, but is the only vitamin known that can actually reverse plaque once it’s formed. You know, the vitamin that’s found in cheese, eggs, butter, liver, other meats, and fermented foods? All those foods that supposedly clog our arteries?

    Look, if you’re going to be logical, you’ll never get the average dietitian to listen to you.

  20. Oke

    The department of foodstuffs here in Sweden initially blustered about “thousands of studies” supporting their lo-fat advice.

    When pressed to specify the studies, this number was cut to 72 studies. They then made the critical mistake of actually providing references… What ensued was not pretty…

    Not pretty, but enlightening.

  21. Firebird7478

    A friend of mine is a nutritionist and has run his own vitamin shop for 25 years. He’s also a personal trainer, and counsels many men and women on weight loss. He freely and readily admits that what he learned in college and through medical journals over the years was wrong, and he is guilty of teaching it to his clients.

    Now that he knows the truth, he is having the difficult task of convincing his clients, especially women, to add fat back into the diet.

    I passed along the same anti-fat nonsense in a small health magazine 25+ years ago. If I’d known better and told people to skip the grains and eat more fat, I probably would have been fired.

  22. John

    How many of those tens of thousands of studies fed hydrogenated Crisco to rabbits, and then concluded “Saturated fat is bad for humans?”

    I also want to know how anyone who defends the lipid hypothesis can explain vitamin K2, the fat soluble vitamin that not only prevents arterial plaque, but is the only vitamin known that can actually reverse plaque once it’s formed. You know, the vitamin that’s found in cheese, eggs, butter, liver, other meats, and fermented foods? All those foods that supposedly clog our arteries?

    Look, if you’re going to be logical, you’ll never get the average dietitian to listen to you.

  23. Erik

    The “astonishing” 100 grams of butter the woman eats per day contains approximately the same number of calories as 4 slices of Healthy Whole Grain bread. Her “jaw dropping” breakfast of 3 eggs cooked in butter contains approximately the same number of calories as a typical bran muffin, and would have approximately the same amount of “artery clogging saturated fat” as a piece of salmon.

    The entire time the video was running, there was an ad in the corner of my screen for some sort of Australian fast food sandwich. Couldn’t quite make out what it was – either a chicken fried steak or chicken fried chicken patty, extra crispy, on a white bun, slathered in mayo.

    The equivalent sandwich in America would have approximately 650-750 calories, which is more than any of the meals I saw in this woman’s “typical day”. I’m a bit skeptical that was a typical day’s meals for one woman, just because the food looked so satiating.

  24. Nowhereman

    Annelie, Oke;

    Is there any way you can link to articles or videos that cover this? I would love know more about this story since it would be a major victory against the forces of the LFHC fundamentalists.

  25. Erik

    The “astonishing” 100 grams of butter the woman eats per day contains approximately the same number of calories as 4 slices of Healthy Whole Grain bread. Her “jaw dropping” breakfast of 3 eggs cooked in butter contains approximately the same number of calories as a typical bran muffin, and would have approximately the same amount of “artery clogging saturated fat” as a piece of salmon.

    The entire time the video was running, there was an ad in the corner of my screen for some sort of Australian fast food sandwich. Couldn’t quite make out what it was – either a chicken fried steak or chicken fried chicken patty, extra crispy, on a white bun, slathered in mayo.

    The equivalent sandwich in America would have approximately 650-750 calories, which is more than any of the meals I saw in this woman’s “typical day”. I’m a bit skeptical that was a typical day’s meals for one woman, just because the food looked so satiating.

  26. Nowhereman

    Annelie, Oke;

    Is there any way you can link to articles or videos that cover this? I would love know more about this story since it would be a major victory against the forces of the LFHC fundamentalists.

  27. luke

    Thanks for the heads-up on Dr. Lustig’s “mini-series”. It looks like it is going to be a good watch. He sure knows how to speak in a way that scares the viewers about what they eat.

  28. Thomas Plummer

    I suspect there is a legal issue here as well. To openly admit that your clinical advice has in fact hurt or even killed people opens up a huge legal liability for practitioners. My father in -lawyer who “always makes his fees” opines that it is riskier for practitioners that go against the conventional wisdom because if someone happens to have an unrelated heart problem it would be an easy sell to a jury or court that it was the low carb diet that caused the problem rather than the reverse.

    I guess I am simply naive to wish that those that are supposed to serve society would actually do it and let the chips fall where they may rather than serve the government aristocracy and their buddies from the pharmaceutical and agriculture industries.

    I think the threat of litigation definitely figures into all this.

  29. luke

    Thanks for the heads-up on Dr. Lustig’s “mini-series”. It looks like it is going to be a good watch. He sure knows how to speak in a way that scares the viewers about what they eat.

  30. Thomas Plummer

    I suspect there is a legal issue here as well. To openly admit that your clinical advice has in fact hurt or even killed people opens up a huge legal liability for practitioners. My father in -lawyer who “always makes his fees” opines that it is riskier for practitioners that go against the conventional wisdom because if someone happens to have an unrelated heart problem it would be an easy sell to a jury or court that it was the low carb diet that caused the problem rather than the reverse.

    I guess I am simply naive to wish that those that are supposed to serve society would actually do it and let the chips fall where they may rather than serve the government aristocracy and their buddies from the pharmaceutical and agriculture industries.

    I think the threat of litigation definitely figures into all this.

  31. Lepoth

    Have you seen this yet?

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47061726/ns/today-today_health/

    The sad thing is, if these women would eat low carb regularly, they wouldn’t have to use the crash tube diet (which, in a rather hilarious twist, is a no carb diet…). They also wouldn’t have to worry about ballooning up again after their weddings once they switched back to their normal (and I’m sure oh so healthy, low fat) diets.

    I saw that earlier. Good lord, just eat the food.

  32. DiscoStew

    I liken the “low fat” and “high carb” views that the big “health” organisations around the world have to the “the world is flat” and “the sun revolves around the earth” beliefs that the Church of the middle ages held. Back then, everyone knew the world was flat because that’s what the Church said. And you were called a non-believer, or even killed, if you didn’t toe the Church’s line. Fortunately, the likes of Copericus questioned this belief and eventually the truth came out.

    I believe the same will happen with the “low fat” and “high carb” beliefs of today…..

    DS

    Let’s hope. The sooner the better.

  33. cancerclasses

    Here’s another video Tom. This is bizarre, $1500 for a 10 day low carb diet? On one hand it’s proof that high fat & protein, low carb diets cause fat loss, but on the other hand it’s an example of the extremes people go to when “experts” bullsh–, er umm, brainwash people into thinking that carbs are necessary. http://goo.gl/aXv74

    Heck, I’ll happily put people on a 10-day low-carb diet for half that fee.

  34. Lepoth

    Have you seen this yet?

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47061726/ns/today-today_health/

    The sad thing is, if these women would eat low carb regularly, they wouldn’t have to use the crash tube diet (which, in a rather hilarious twist, is a no carb diet…). They also wouldn’t have to worry about ballooning up again after their weddings once they switched back to their normal (and I’m sure oh so healthy, low fat) diets.

    I saw that earlier. Good lord, just eat the food.

  35. DiscoStew

    I liken the “low fat” and “high carb” views that the big “health” organisations around the world have to the “the world is flat” and “the sun revolves around the earth” beliefs that the Church of the middle ages held. Back then, everyone knew the world was flat because that’s what the Church said. And you were called a non-believer, or even killed, if you didn’t toe the Church’s line. Fortunately, the likes of Copericus questioned this belief and eventually the truth came out.

    I believe the same will happen with the “low fat” and “high carb” beliefs of today…..

    DS

    Let’s hope. The sooner the better.

  36. cancerclasses

    Here’s another video Tom. This is bizarre, $1500 for a 10 day low carb diet? On one hand it’s proof that high fat & protein, low carb diets cause fat loss, but on the other hand it’s an example of the extremes people go to when “experts” bullsh–, er umm, brainwash people into thinking that carbs are necessary. http://goo.gl/aXv74

    Heck, I’ll happily put people on a 10-day low-carb diet for half that fee.

  37. Walter B

    You would put people on that diet for $750. But would you go up their nose with a rubber hose?

    I might outsource that part of the procedure.

  38. Walter B

    You would put people on that diet for $750. But would you go up their nose with a rubber hose?

    I might outsource that part of the procedure.

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