And it only took 30 years. Here’s a Today Show clip about the new TIME article:
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And it only took 30 years. Here’s a Today Show clip about the new TIME article:
Butter is quite photogenic, don’t you think?
It poses well.
I wonder if we would be looking at the same epidemics if “adulterated” lard had never been introduced to the food supply in the late 1800’s? The early 1900’s marks the major marked increase of heart disease in the U.S., it is only a few decades after the introduction of adulterated lard (cottonseed oil). Then followed the introduction of vegetable shortening/hydrogenated oils. How much of the current heart disease decrease is due to dietary trans-fat reduction? Not much to do with your post, but the picture made me think…
I am so happy, I tweeted the Time Cover to @CountryCrock and said goodbye old friend. 🙂
OMG! They actually got it right! Saturated fats are good for you, refined carbs are the problem. I think the earth just shifted on its axis.
I’ve pinched myself several times to confirm I’m awake and not dreaming.
Unfortunately, they probably still think refined carbs don’t include the “heart-healthy whole grains”, so they’ll still be pushing that stuff.
One victory at a time.
I’m actually surprised that the dietician didn’t say something like “we’ve always known , but” or something.
There was an article similar to this in one of the women’s magazines (don’t remember which one, and didn’t keep it). Naturally, they ended the article with the recommendation that despite these new findings, you should still base your diet on lean meats (red meat only a couple times a week at most), chicken, fish, healthy seed oils like olive oil, and lots of fruit, vegetables, and healthywholegrains.
I guess they need to change their minds slowly.
Perfect!
Before I post this to my friends I agona have to see this on the news stands. I just can’t believe it.
One major canon or is that cannon changes sides. The battle is not yet won, the forces of resistance remain strong and have friends and employees in high places.
Remember we are not fight not against flesh and blood, but a whole spirit of the age, against Powers and Principalities. So we should not eat the vegans not even the good Dr. Ornish, besides he’d taste terrible and we’d have to waste too much fat cooking him to make him remotely palatable.
And the video also came out against refined carbs. It’s OK, very few people eat whole grains because without sugar and fat they taste *bad*.
No one eats whole grain pasta and only a few fanatics bother with brown rice. My brother in law, say he ate brown rice once and has no intention of doing it again. Not in those words, I mean this is a family blog. (As if the kiddies don’t know more obscenities than I do.)
A battle is won, but the war rages. The USDA will, of course, continue to impose low-fat meals on kids.
True. And the AHA still uses cartoons to illustrate fats. “Bad” fats (saturated) are illustrated by stupid looking men:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/The-Bad-Fats-Brothers_UCM_305102_Article.jsp
The “better” fats (like corn and canola oil) are illustrated by intelligent looking women:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/The-Better-Fats-Sisters_UCM_305103_Article.jsp
Eat corn oil to save your heart. Those idiots are killing people with their advice.
I use to work for a regional sports network and we extensively covered the bad relationship between a team and the parents of their star player. One of the team’s color analysts said to me, “If bad parenting were a crime, these two would get life sentences.”
I think the same could be said about dietary advice.
Indeed.
I saw that on the AHA website too. Obviously the AHA must really hate meat and love carbs, sugar, corn oil, and other supposedly “good food”
Forget them, I am going to have a steak with lots of butter.
Evil “Sat” says:
“The more time you and I spend together, the better chance I’ll have to clog your arteries and break your heart”
Note there’s no reference for this emotive nonsense.
Then, they show you examples of foods where you most find all these evil fats:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/Bad-Fats-Brothers-Menu_UCM_305106_Article.jsp
The examples they provide of the apotheosis of lipidinous evil are: chicken pot pie (with a nice big WHEATY crust), BREADED mozzarella sticks (with a nice sweet dip, no doubt), french fried POTATOES with chilli and cheese, carrot CAKE and a bacon-egg-and-cheese breakfast BISCUIT.
Well done AHA. These are indeed prime examples of products made *entirely* of fat AND NOTHING ELSE that might be an issue.
Oh, and I forgot to mention. On the right-hand side of this *completely objective* AHA demonisation of saturated fats appears the following:
“CanolaInfo proudly supports the Face the Fats campaign and website”.
I bet they do!
Hmmm, here’s an interesting bet: which will be the first to admit saturated fat isn’t harmful, the USDA or the AHA? Either would have to make a thoroughly embarrassing about-face.
Have to do an age-check on the leadership of those orgs. Because it’s not going to happen until the incompetents running the show die off (or at least retire).
Sience progresses one funeral at a time.
Cannons go “boom,” but then again canon sometimes goes “Boom” as well.
I thought that Time cover was a Photoshop joke too! Too good to be true!
Actually, I know a lot of people who go out of their way to buy whole-wheat pasta and other forms of pasta. I love brown rice, and know a lot of people who won’t eat white rice anymore, but love brown rice.
Just sayin’.
Wow. Except, of course, she didn’t mention that saturated fats raise HDL. The “big, fluffy” and “small, dense” were good. And the parts about bagels and cookies.
According to the interpreters of research that I highly respect — Chris Masterjohn, Chris Kresser, Zoe Harcombe — they’ve mentioned that after you apply the right statistical analysis to studies of LDL particle size, that factor’s irrelevant.
I respect there opinions also but I think they are wrong on the statistical elimination of particle size. If you actually look at the data you still want to be in the group with the lowest number of small particles regardless of the total number. The number of people with the highest particle counts (also have the highest number of small particles) is much larger (than the group with high particles but low small particles) which distorts the data to highest particle counts. They have been fooled by statistical magic. Ron Krause clearly understands this.
In the Times article it does mention that sat fat raises LDL but also HDL so it’s a wash.
I haven’t read it.
Too bad no one reads Time anymore. I seriously didn’t think it still existed.
Butter is quite photogenic, don’t you think?
It poses well.
I have yet to read the actual article, but it seems to me that since Teicholz’s book is based on facts that are publicly available, it would be hard to prove plagiarism. They probably should have given her a nod, though, since the splash that her book made finally has brought the issue to the attention of the general public. At least it seems so and I hope so.
Love the tweet but wouldn’t a justified follow up be:
@bigfatsurpise Your book on fat is lifted entirely from @goodcaloriesbadcalories and shameful.— Gary Taubes (@garytaubes) June 17, 2014
It didn’t actually happen but people in glass houses…
I wonder if we would be looking at the same epidemics if “adulterated” lard had never been introduced to the food supply in the late 1800’s? The early 1900’s marks the major marked increase of heart disease in the U.S., it is only a few decades after the introduction of adulterated lard (cottonseed oil). Then followed the introduction of vegetable shortening/hydrogenated oils. How much of the current heart disease decrease is due to dietary trans-fat reduction? Not much to do with your post, but the picture made me think…
I am so happy, I tweeted the Time Cover to @CountryCrock and said goodbye old friend. 🙂
OMG! They actually got it right! Saturated fats are good for you, refined carbs are the problem. I think the earth just shifted on its axis.
I’ve pinched myself several times to confirm I’m awake and not dreaming.
Unfortunately, they probably still think refined carbs don’t include the “heart-healthy whole grains”, so they’ll still be pushing that stuff.
One victory at a time.
I’m actually surprised that the dietician didn’t say something like “we’ve always known , but” or something.
There was an article similar to this in one of the women’s magazines (don’t remember which one, and didn’t keep it). Naturally, they ended the article with the recommendation that despite these new findings, you should still base your diet on lean meats (red meat only a couple times a week at most), chicken, fish, healthy seed oils like olive oil, and lots of fruit, vegetables, and healthywholegrains.
I guess they need to change their minds slowly.
Perfect!
VF Day
Before I post this to my friends I agona have to see this on the news stands. I just can’t believe it.
One major canon or is that cannon changes sides. The battle is not yet won, the forces of resistance remain strong and have friends and employees in high places.
Remember we are not fight not against flesh and blood, but a whole spirit of the age, against Powers and Principalities. So we should not eat the vegans not even the good Dr. Ornish, besides he’d taste terrible and we’d have to waste too much fat cooking him to make him remotely palatable.
And the video also came out against refined carbs. It’s OK, very few people eat whole grains because without sugar and fat they taste *bad*.
No one eats whole grain pasta and only a few fanatics bother with brown rice. My brother in law, say he ate brown rice once and has no intention of doing it again. Not in those words, I mean this is a family blog. (As if the kiddies don’t know more obscenities than I do.)
A battle is won, but the war rages. The USDA will, of course, continue to impose low-fat meals on kids.
True. And the AHA still uses cartoons to illustrate fats. “Bad” fats (saturated) are illustrated by stupid looking men:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/The-Bad-Fats-Brothers_UCM_305102_Article.jsp
The “better” fats (like corn and canola oil) are illustrated by intelligent looking women:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/The-Better-Fats-Sisters_UCM_305103_Article.jsp
Eat corn oil to save your heart. Those idiots are killing people with their advice.
I use to work for a regional sports network and we extensively covered the bad relationship between a team and the parents of their star player. One of the team’s color analysts said to me, “If bad parenting were a crime, these two would get life sentences.”
I think the same could be said about dietary advice.
Indeed.
I saw that on the AHA website too. Obviously the AHA must really hate meat and love carbs, sugar, corn oil, and other supposedly “good food”
Forget them, I am going to have a steak with lots of butter.
Evil “Sat” says:
“The more time you and I spend together, the better chance I’ll have to clog your arteries and break your heart”
Note there’s no reference for this emotive nonsense.
Then, they show you examples of foods where you most find all these evil fats:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/MeettheFats/Bad-Fats-Brothers-Menu_UCM_305106_Article.jsp
The examples they provide of the apotheosis of lipidinous evil are: chicken pot pie (with a nice big WHEATY crust), BREADED mozzarella sticks (with a nice sweet dip, no doubt), french fried POTATOES with chilli and cheese, carrot CAKE and a bacon-egg-and-cheese breakfast BISCUIT.
Well done AHA. These are indeed prime examples of products made *entirely* of fat AND NOTHING ELSE that might be an issue.
Oh, and I forgot to mention. On the right-hand side of this *completely objective* AHA demonisation of saturated fats appears the following:
“CanolaInfo proudly supports the Face the Fats campaign and website”.
I bet they do!
Hmmm, here’s an interesting bet: which will be the first to admit saturated fat isn’t harmful, the USDA or the AHA? Either would have to make a thoroughly embarrassing about-face.
Have to do an age-check on the leadership of those orgs. Because it’s not going to happen until the incompetents running the show die off (or at least retire).
Sience progresses one funeral at a time.
Cannons go “boom,” but then again canon sometimes goes “Boom” as well.
I thought that Time cover was a Photoshop joke too! Too good to be true!
Actually, I know a lot of people who go out of their way to buy whole-wheat pasta and other forms of pasta. I love brown rice, and know a lot of people who won’t eat white rice anymore, but love brown rice.
Just sayin’.
You deserve some credit for this Tom. Fathead managed to open my eyes! Long live the lard.
Praise the lard and pass the bacon.
Wow. Except, of course, she didn’t mention that saturated fats raise HDL. The “big, fluffy” and “small, dense” were good. And the parts about bagels and cookies.
According to the interpreters of research that I highly respect — Chris Masterjohn, Chris Kresser, Zoe Harcombe — they’ve mentioned that after you apply the right statistical analysis to studies of LDL particle size, that factor’s irrelevant.
I respect there opinions also but I think they are wrong on the statistical elimination of particle size. If you actually look at the data you still want to be in the group with the lowest number of small particles regardless of the total number. The number of people with the highest particle counts (also have the highest number of small particles) is much larger (than the group with high particles but low small particles) which distorts the data to highest particle counts. They have been fooled by statistical magic. Ron Krause clearly understands this.
In the Times article it does mention that sat fat raises LDL but also HDL so it’s a wash.
I haven’t read it.
Too bad no one reads Time anymore. I seriously didn’t think it still existed.
I have yet to read the actual article, but it seems to me that since Teicholz’s book is based on facts that are publicly available, it would be hard to prove plagiarism. They probably should have given her a nod, though, since the splash that her book made finally has brought the issue to the attention of the general public. At least it seems so and I hope so.
Love the tweet but wouldn’t a justified follow up be:
@bigfatsurpise Your book on fat is lifted entirely from @goodcaloriesbadcalories and shameful.— Gary Taubes (@garytaubes) June 17, 2014
It didn’t actually happen but people in glass houses…
VF Day
It is of course hilarious that, after watching to the article, the ad preceding the video was for Honey Graham Crackers (whole wheat though 🙂 )
Thanks for sharing
Who wheat is better?! I think not! (Walter disappears in a puff of Descartian logic.)
You deserve some credit for this Tom. Fathead managed to open my eyes! Long live the lard.
Praise the lard and pass the bacon.
In light of the TIME magazine headlines I wonder if the Australian Catalyst TV documentary “Dietary Villains” will now be reinstated.
Don’t hold your breath.
Step by step the world be turning.
I wonder if anyone still reads Time
I’m thinking of framing the cover and putting it in my dining room/kitchen area. It only makes sense, considering how much butter we eat.
I almost fell off my chair.
WOW!
But why, oh why, does the placard with Joy’s Takeaways say “More Fat = More Weight Gain?” (at 1:40). I didn’t hear her say that. Perhaps the person assigned to making the placard saw “More Carbs = More Weight Gain” and figured it MUST be a typo, because, you know, FAT.
*sigh*
If you add more fat to a high-carb diet, you will gain more weight.
I am guessing because you are just adding more food on top of more food to the point where any nutritional benefit of eating fat is effectively destroyed.
If you’re eating a diet that encourages fat-storage, you don’t want to add more fat to store.
Nah, I’m with you, Alexandra. This got edited. It is not the simple crisp message being delivered. Someon was caught with their low fat pants down on this. Pretty funny.
Have you seen the movie “Fed up” yet? I just wanted adopt that pre teen girl for the summer and show her pics of me as a kid and tell her it will be o.k. and that there is hope to lose weight without deprivation. I can’t wait to get my hands on that Time magazine at work and show my fellow cashiers the cover with a big smile and a “Told you so” gloat! 🙂 Missed you both on the cruise this year!
Haven’t seen it.
Missed you too Laurie.
This video brings tears of joy to my eyes…
Typical TIME mag, blames the scientists not the govt goofballs wh0o implemented all this nonsense.
Tom, here are some more photos of Michelle Obama’s “healthy” school lunches, photographed by the poor kids who had to eat them. From April, but ICYMI:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598525/Ill-never-forgive-Michelle-Obama-school-lunch-Students-sick-smaller-healthier-portions-social-media-rail-against-ladys-pet-project.html
Michelle Obama’s children certainly aren’t served anything that repulsive looking at their school, they have real wholefood that tastes good and is good for you.
Didn’t Mrs. Obama state that hers was a bacon and eggs family. Googles
Well that link says bacon anyway for her and her hubby.
Well we don’t expect politicians to walk as they (officially) talk.
And remember that they have chefs, so they could have the very best vegan or low fat diet possible with no extra work.
4 rashers of bacon in every school lunch!
Reminds me of Time’s Ice Age / Global Warming scare covers.
And let’s not forget Newsweek suggesting we may have to use nuclear weapons to melt the polar ice caps to avoid another ice age.
My thoughts exactly, Paul. I guess we win some, and lose some.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/06/Facebook_meme_Global_Cooling_11.gif
This same edition has an article on climate change and how Americans don’t seem to want to get with the program. That writer needs to read the “eat butter” article and understand that climate change science is on the same track as fat and cholesterol. Observations don’t mean causation and the actual science doesn’t support the political consensus.
No argument on that one.
I think global warming skepticism will have a much harder time breaking into the mainstream than low fat skepticism. I hear far too many people–including many low carb experts, amusingly–comparing global warming skeptics to kooks/drunks/dolts/child molesters/grave robbers/mattress tag removers/etc to be very optimistic about a grassroots-inspired sea change in popular thought.
Where I am optimistic on this issue, however, is that I doubt the global warming alarmist elitists will be able to galvanize the necessary political will to severely disturb the long-term economy before a natural cooling cycle proves them dead wrong. Then, they will pretend they never believed in GW to begin with, just like they pretended they never believed in the ice age nonsense four decades ago.
The elitists, by the way, would rather only we non-famous and non-rich riffraff reduce our ‘carbon footprint.’ Evidently, they think the concept need not apply to themselves, as I just finished reading about in a shocking and hilarious chapter in a book titled ‘Hollywood Hypocrites.’ Harrison Ford, Leo di Caprio, George Clooney, and other Hollywood loudmouths tell us all to stop destroying the planet with our carbon emissions, but then own several private jets, which they routinely use, damage the environment on the foreign sets of their movies, etc. Oh, but at least they drive hybrids to well publicized events, so that everyone will see them setting the example. Pretty funny, and infuriating at the same time.
I’m really glad the federal government and many state governments subsidize the Hollywood industry with our tax dollars, by the way. (sorry, rambled way off topic…once I start, it’s hard to stop) 🙂
I like Al Gore’s method of excusing himself. When it came out in the press that his house consumed 20 times as much electricity as an average house, he explained that he buys carbon credits to make up for it. He didn’t mention that he bought those credits from a company he owned. So now if I feel I’ve used too much electricity, I transfer money from my personal savings account to my business savings account and call it even.
When people have to stoop to comparing people who disagree with them to Holocaust deniers or criminals, that means they’re out of ammunition. I consider that a victory. I liked the reply Prof. Robert Carter (author of “Climate: The Counter-Consensus”) gave when someone called him a global-warming denier: “I’m not a denier; I’m a skeptic. Scientists are supposed to be skeptics.”
Here are a couple of good lines from the book, now that I’ve had time to retrieve them:
“When [Clooney] was called out on his environmental hypocrisy…[his] publicist…replied, ‘You clearly have no understanding of certain people’s need for private transport,’ adding that Clooney has ‘no control’ over where and when he travels.” Poetry.
“…Obama lectured a father of ten that he should by a hybrid van (which are not sold in the United States)…[while on a three-day trip, he] racked up 10,666 miles on Air Force One, burned 53,000 gallons of fuel, and cost you and me the tax-payer $180,000.”
He turned Gore upside down and inside out as well…too many gems from that section to even pick one!
I only read Time when it has butter on the cover!!
I expect this upcoming article to be a best seller. And yes Time is on the newstands including my local Barns and Noble.
Most of my magazines have butter on the cover, but only because I put them on the kitchen table.
I don’t read Time, even in waiting rooms, but I understand that the present article did not apologize for that 1984 cover, nor for this one from 1961:
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1961/1101610113_400.jpg
To borrow something from a comment of mine on another blog, this amounts to:
“We today admit that we have zero credibility, but we have some important news, so pay attention.”
It’s great that recognition of the low fat mistake is permeating popular culture, but this particular messenger needs to continue to be treated with great suspicion.
Well, in fairness, I don’t expect today’s TIME editors and reporters to take the blame for the actions of their predecessors, but yes, an acknowledgment of the magazine’s role in promoting low-fat diets would have been cool.
They did refer to their role in the past. They didn’t mention the 1984 article, but they did mention that part of the cause of all this was the Ancel Keys fiasco and they mentioned that they had him on the cover of Time in the past.
Kudos to them for admitting it.
It is of course hilarious that, after watching to the article, the ad preceding the video was for Honey Graham Crackers (whole wheat though 🙂 )
Thanks for sharing
Who wheat is better?! I think not! (Walter disappears in a puff of Descartian logic.)
I feel like going out and buying a copy of
Time ( if it still printed?).
Yes. And this issue should be on the newsstands on Monday.
Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!
That clip was hysterical. Now we are treated to a lecture by Nutritionist and total expert Joy Bauer on how to eat right. Here’s a clip from one of your old posts:
“The bad news is that when I looked at the breakfast menu in the hotel, there was a section called Joy Bauer’s Healthy Options. The “healthy” options were (of course) an egg-white omelet with steamed vegetables, oatmeal, a fruit and juice combo with low-fat yogurt, whole-grain pancakes, whole-wheat toast, and some kind of turkey sausage concoction. In other words, “healthy” means low fat and/or whole grains.”
And right next to her, cheering this stunning new revelation, is poor Al “I can’t believe I had half my guts ripped out because I listened to this piece of sh!t sitting next to me” Roker.
Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!
She shouldn’t have been giving a lecture, she should’ve been drowned in a vat of corn oil.
Cheers
She’s taking a page from the CSPI playbook: ignore your previous bad advice as if it never happened.
In light of the TIME magazine headlines I wonder if the Australian Catalyst TV documentary “Dietary Villains” will now be reinstated.
Don’t hold your breath.
On the video at 1:41 the poster says “-more fat = more weight gain”.
Sounds like they are still saying, at least on the poster “eating fat will make you fat”.
So who’s going to follow the advice to eat butter and saturated fat when the poster says it makes you fat?
Am I reading that right?
If you slather a bagel with butter, it could make you fat.
In my experience, slathering anything in butter makes me eat less, even though it tastes better. The bagel and butter would be the whole meal. Of course before I was off sugar it was a different story.
I can’t freakin beleive I actually saw that in the mainstream media.
Better late than never.
Step by step the world be turning.
I wonder if anyone still reads Time
I’m thinking of framing the cover and putting it in my dining room/kitchen area. It only makes sense, considering how much butter we eat.
I almost fell off my chair.
WOW!
But why, oh why, does the placard with Joy’s Takeaways say “More Fat = More Weight Gain?” (at 1:40). I didn’t hear her say that. Perhaps the person assigned to making the placard saw “More Carbs = More Weight Gain” and figured it MUST be a typo, because, you know, FAT.
*sigh*
If you add more fat to a high-carb diet, you will gain more weight.
I am guessing because you are just adding more food on top of more food to the point where any nutritional benefit of eating fat is effectively destroyed.
If you’re eating a diet that encourages fat-storage, you don’t want to add more fat to store.
Nah, I’m with you, Alexandra. This got edited. It is not the simple crisp message being delivered. Someon was caught with their low fat pants down on this. Pretty funny.
Have you seen the movie “Fed up” yet? I just wanted adopt that pre teen girl for the summer and show her pics of me as a kid and tell her it will be o.k. and that there is hope to lose weight without deprivation. I can’t wait to get my hands on that Time magazine at work and show my fellow cashiers the cover with a big smile and a “Told you so” gloat! 🙂 Missed you both on the cruise this year!
Haven’t seen it.
Missed you too Laurie.
This video brings tears of joy to my eyes…
YES, YES, YES, YES…..OH MY YES…..I feel like Meg Ryan in the movie “When Harry Met Sally”! I invite you to watch the NBC News report with further info…. Tom Naughton has known this and tried to tell us all this for years!
“I’ll have what she’s having.”
Does this mean you’re faking your … uh … elation?
Typical TIME mag, blames the scientists not the govt goofballs wh0o implemented all this nonsense.
Tom, here are some more photos of Michelle Obama’s “healthy” school lunches, photographed by the poor kids who had to eat them. From April, but ICYMI:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598525/Ill-never-forgive-Michelle-Obama-school-lunch-Students-sick-smaller-healthier-portions-social-media-rail-against-ladys-pet-project.html
Michelle Obama’s children certainly aren’t served anything that repulsive looking at their school, they have real wholefood that tastes good and is good for you.
Didn’t Mrs. Obama state that hers was a bacon and eggs family. Googles
Well that link says bacon anyway for her and her hubby.
Well we don’t expect politicians to walk as they (officially) talk.
And remember that they have chefs, so they could have the very best vegan or low fat diet possible with no extra work.
4 rashers of bacon in every school lunch!