Guest Host On ‘The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show’

I’m the guest host for today’s edition of The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show With Jimmy Moore.  (Jimmy has been taking time off to finish his next book.)

The topic, which was suggested by Jimmy, is Feeding Kids For Health.  Since feeding our girls is mostly Chareva’s responsibility, I brought her into the episode, followed by the girls themselves.  I think you’ll enjoy their insights on how to get kids to eat vegetables.

You can download and/or listen to the episode here.


38 thoughts on “Guest Host On ‘The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show’

  1. Kristin

    That podcast was totally charming. Your kids were fabulous and I was envious of the understanding and focus of Chareva. When I had my daughter back in 93 I was still struggling with my own food addiction and still had so little understanding of good food. Tom, I’m right there with you on the damaged system from too much white bread, sugar and processed cereal. I eat low carb Paleo now (with a bit of a nod to WAP in that I am still eating a little homemade wild sourdough made with fresh ground spelt flour.) People think I’m nuts but I feel so much better that I just shrug it off.

    My daughter also struggles with her diet and I’m trying to be helpful but she is now 19. She has to do this herself. I often feel so guilty that I just didn’t know enough to be a good Mom in that particular instance. She does want to heal and keeps working at it. I make her bone broth and she will eat my wild sourdough with sugar free nut butter and raw honey. She also eats yogurt now (with raw honey added.) No veg yet. You folks are fortunate that you worked out these modern diet issues when your girls were still young. I am sure that so many things will be easier for them since their minds aren’t challenged by unbalanced chemicals from bad diet. Bravo to you and Chareva. I really enjoyed that podcast.

    Thank you. I’m grateful that Chareva is on board and determined to feed the girls a nutritious diet. They’re healthy, happy kids, and her efforts have a lot to do with that.

  2. Sally Myles

    Tonsilloliths. Or tonsil stones. Those globby things in the throat. White, lumpy like little bits of raw peanut that smell like the very Devil himself. Used to get them too. Don’t any more.

  3. Luke

    Great podcast. It’s amazing how much your daughters know about health. Your kids know more than old grown doctors. It was a great learning tool for me having a four month old daughter. I know she’s young but it’s never too soon for me to learn.

    The sooner the better. I’m glad my daughters are actually interested in the diet and health connection. It’s not just us preaching to them; they like to know.

  4. desmond

    Your next step is to do a video version of something like this. Perhaps as panel discussion with other parents and kids? The talk with your daughters was an amazing counterpoint to a recent cell phone commercial featuring an adult interviewing children in an elementary school classroom — the kids describe their dreams of going to an island made of candy.

    I have two kids roughly the same age as yours. Although I stop eating most “crap” foods a couple years ago, only about 6 months ago did I get serious about avoiding grains and sugar. We are still working on getting the kids’ diets healthy, without being food nazis. Thanks for all the real-world advice.

    I think avoiding becoming a food Nazi is the smart choice. Occasional indulgences aren’t the cause of children’s health problems, and we don’t want to give sugar the appeal of forbidden fruit.

  5. Lori

    Hi Tom and Family!

    Just got done listening to the podcast and had to tell you that it was one of my favorites ever!

    Your family is absolutely delightful! I think you should seriously consider having your kids post a healhy kids podcast! They are extremely bright and funny and have so much to offer their peers. I love that they are so balanced in their views and clearly just “get it”. How lucky for them at their young ages to understand so much. We need them to share this with our youth even more so than we need to teach it to our adults. They are our future!

    You and your lovely wife are doing an amazing job! Kudos!

    Lori from Pittsburgh, PA

    I appreciate that. We talked to the girls about doing their own YouTube series on kids and diets. They liked the idea in theory, but balked every time we suggested setting up the camera and shooting. Maybe someday.

  6. LeeAnn


    Loved the interview! Will the cookbook based on your ‘child-approved’ family recipes be available soon? 🙂

    Not soon, but eventually.

  7. Robinowitz

    Great podcast! Your family is very funny and I really enjoyed the dynamic between all of you. Impressed how well your kids seem to understand food and how it affects them, but I’m sure that’s good parenting and having a good dialogue with them about it all. I hope when my two year old son is old enough to understand why we eat like we do that he’ll roll with it as well as your kids do and not fight against it just to fit in. In fact, my son doesn’t really enjoy sweets very much because we rarely have them. Fruit is a sweet to him. We were recently at a birthday party full of sugary drinks and cake. My husband and I had decided that we’d let him eat whatever he wanted since we don’t want to create a food stigma by forbidding it. We offered him a slice of chocolate cake with blue icing–he picked at it with the fork, looked at the other kids eating it, then decided to get up without taking a bite. I assume he didn’t know what it was. I was so proud of him that day:) I know it won’t always be that easy, but I’m enjoying his compliance while it lasts.

    I also can relate to having those molar stones another commenter identified. Like your lovely wife, I thought I was incredibly gross when I’d get one of those, though I no longer get them when I don’t eat junk or bread. But I have noticed that they appear again if I’ve been on a junk food binge. I used to think they were bits of bread that got stuck back there, but I’ve just read that they’re calcified stuff and the cause is unknown. Well, my guess is that they’re somehow wheat or food additive related. That’s my n=1 opinion, at least. Maybe due to excess mucus production that kicks in when confronted with lots of gluten..?

    Anyway, thanks for the funny and educational podcast! If you had your own show, I’d be listening to it every week!

    I suspect you’ll find he’s not as interested in sugary foods as the other kids even when he’s older. I think early conditioning of the tastebuds figures into it.

  8. Miri

    Fantastic podcast Tom, and what a lovely family you have!

    I am willing to bet that following such a nutritious diet now will not only preserve your girls’ physical health, but will have profound effects on their mental well-being, too. New studies showing the inextricable links between nutrition and good mental health – and deficiencies and mental illness – are now being published, and it seems food has a pivotal role in treating and preventing, not just depression (as you mentioned in Fat Head), but also anxiety, eating disorders, OCD, and even schizophrenia. (More info here:

    Women appear to be much more vulnerable to mental ill health than men (currently 1 in 4 women are taking antidepressants), and could this be because they’re much more likely to go on low-fat diets and thus become nutrient deficient?

    Unsurprisingly, all the nutrient deficiencies linked with mental illness – omega-3s, B-vitamins etc – are the ones found in fatty animal products. So again we see that loading up on empty calories in the form of processed grains and flours deprives people of what they really need and makes them ill – not just physically, but mentally, too.

    So bravo to you and Chareva for feeding your girls the diet most likely to keep them happy and healthy. I’m willing to bet they’ve never been diagnosed with “ADHD” or any other newly-invented childhood illnesses either…

    Nora Gedgaudas put it perfectly: all the therapy in the world won’t replace a missing nutrient.

  9. Milla

    Just listened to the podcast. Really informative and entertaining and it was great to hear the kids opinions and comments too. They’re so smart, funny and well-spoken. I’ll definitely be sharing this with friends and family!

    And I loved your point about not tolerating carbs now since you grew up with cereal and the usual suspects. This is something I’m trying to get my husband to understand. He grew up eating bread and pasta and cereal and something called “frito casserole”. (I’m from Finland and he’s Floridian so there’s a slight cultural difference, I don’t know many of those “traditional” American foods…). Most likely my husband is carb-sensitive. He’s seen Fat Head, Food Inc and all the major documentaries, but still finds it hard to let go of the junky carbs and processed foods. “Well I can eat a bagel if I want! I’ve worked all night and I just want and need something junky!” And then he eats a second. And a third. Munchity-munch and the bag is gone. He’s also an insomniac with restless legs, has frequent stomach issues and so on. Hopefully he’ll get it soon, that he could easily feel better if he tried changing his habits. Well, just wanted to share some of my daily battles here in Providence, RI.

    I hope for his sake he decides someday that health is more appealing than those bagels.

    For the record, I wouldn’t consider frito casserole a traditional American food.

  10. Kristian

    I was quite impressed by your daughters. Obviously very intelligent. I am a teacher, my average student being between 16 and 20. I wish they were as intelligent as your girls.

    I think they’re intelligent, but I’m biased.

  11. Bret

    Great job, Tom. I always enjoy your appearances on the LLVLC show, whether as guest or host.

    I think you made a great point in that undamaged children do not need to be on low-carb diets (or draconian eating plans of any kind), as some of the “zealots” might have us believe.

    I’m looking forward to watching my six-month-old’s physiology progress over the years. I suspect she’ll need neither braces nor fillings nor vision correction. Wish I could say the same for myself, but that’s what happens when you spend 28 years eating junk.

    Well, we can’t go back and undo the bad habits of our youth, but we can helps our kids to avoid the same mistakes. Congratulations on the baby. You’ve got some awesome experiences in your near future.

  12. Nads

    I used to get those tonsil stones mainly as a teenager. By the time I was in my mid 20s they had gone, but this wasn’t because of change in diet.

  13. Gilana

    Just because you’re biased doesn’t mean you’re wrong. Your daughters are well above average.

    I knew it wasn’t just parental bias when I saw Sara’s scores on the standardized state exams last year — especially since she’s a year younger than most kids in her grade at school.

  14. js290

    No more gunky throat for me, either. Went to a ENT about it once. Didn’t tell me a useful thing about why it was happening. Since my metabolic discovery, it hasn’t happened again.

  15. Bill C.

    Great podcast, Tom! The only problem with it was the timing of my listening to it. I put my headphone in and listened to it at work. Now the co-workers that thought of my as “a bit odd” think I’m just plain insane after watching me laughing out loud while working.

    Our kids are grown up now so it’s a lot harder to change their habits. My wife and I try to translate all the things we’ve learned to the kids but they seem to think we are turning into “new age hippies”. We have a grandson now and we try to inform our kids of the facts so they can feed our grandson right from the start. It’s an uphill battle.

    Your girls are adorable as well as very intelligent and well spoken. It’s nice to see they can laugh at the peer pressure from their classmates.

    Sorry if your co-workers think you’re odd now, but I’m glad you enjoyed the podcast.

  16. Rae

    Loved this podcast! Your girls are so smart. And you’re doing them such a favor. They won’t acquire a taste for this junk so when they’re older and can eat whatever they want, they still won’t eat it. I wasn’t allowed to drink soda (diet or regular) when I was a child (one of the best things my parents ever did for me!). Now that I’m an adult and I could drink soda if I wanted to, I still never do because I find it disgusting. When I was a kid, I willingly ate vegetables too – as long as they were fried in animal fat! Fat makes everything yummy.

    We’re operating on the theory that if they understand what junk food does to them, they’ll choose wisely … most of the time, anyway.

  17. Troy Wynn

    My wife has (had) restless leg syndrome. When Chareva mentioned cutting wheat from the diet took care of her restless legs, it dawned on me that since we cut wheat from our diet I have not heard a single complaint from my wife. So I called her and asked when the last time was she experienced it. Big pause on the phone, haha… totally forgot about it. It went away after we ditched with wheat.

    Outstanding. I used to get restless legs too, although not as much as Chareva. Haven’t had a case of it in years now, except once after a pizza indulgence.

  18. SB

    Nice show, I enjoyed your kids’ honesty (‘sometimes I get jealous that they can eat sweets whenever they want’) and apparent understanding of why they eat what they eat. One thing my parents did not allow in the house was pop- my first sip of it at 6 or 7 was an unpleasant and painful surprise (the carbonation was weird and stung my tongue). Now it is an occasional treat but I really do not care for it. All that to say, it is cool to hear that kids can enjoy healthy food esp when starting out young. No “kid menu” necessary.

    I wish I’d had the same negative experience with soda. Unfortunately, I liked the stuff, at least until my teen years.

  19. Ash Simmonds

    Getting kids to eat veggies – FWIW it’s unnecessary, but likely fine for the most part. They’d be perfectly fine on just good fatty meat, but modern cuisine requires mass variety and (hyper)palatability.

    As to the restless legs thing – same here – 30+ years of frequent muscle anxiety just went away. Even sleep itself is immeasurably better, exposure to sunlight doesn’t burn me within 18 seconds any more, I can walk around in daylight without sunnies (I was always referred to as a vampire), teeth always feel clean no matter how long it’s been since brushing, tongue is never furry, lethargy is rare (I still drink a lot of alcohol), nails are stronger, skin is great – I’m still waiting for the grey to disappear from my hair but I won’t hold my breath on that one, at least it’s still gloriously thick into my late 30’s so far…

    On the eating bacon until throwing up thing – I’ve actually tried this, and it’s impossible without severe force. Not bacon specifically, but I’ve done it several times with 90%+ fat (eg pork belly eating only the fat with butter on it), the most I can put away is 300-400 grams, what happens is the first several bites are amazingly delicious, then you get to the point where you are satiated and would normally simply stop eating. Force yourself a few more bites and each one becomes more unpalatable than the last, until the mere idea of food of any type is actually physically nauseating – palatability is entirely gone, even the act of cutting the next forkful ready to eat will prompt that hard-swallowing response. Here we’re talking about the amount of food that can fit in the palm of your hand.

    Yup. As Dr. Michael Eades told me, when he was in practice, none of his patients ever binged on steak or eggs. It was always something with refined carbs.

  20. Ali

    This was adorable, informative, and hilarious! Thank you Tom for including your family. I have two kids, 5 & 7 years old, and to avoid the “your lunch is weird” comments I have found that packing in a Planet Box ( really helps. These are stainless steel lunch boxes with little compartments and very cool changeable magnets. Other kids are so excited to see what magnets my kids have for the day, as I change them up and sometimes put on funny things (like random magnets from the fridge). I agree school lunches aren’t the best, but in all the times I sit in on lunch at my kids’ school I’ve discovered most lunches sent from home (white bread, pretzels, cheesy crackers, bag of m&ms, candy, red jello, etc.) are far worse than school lunch.

    Yeah, I’ve seen what other kids bring from home. Mostly white-bread sandwiches, apple juice, some kind of sugary treat for dessert, etc.

  21. Steve J

    Thought you would enjoy this, more casual misinformation regarding the new sausage/hamburger McDonalds hybrid:

    Apparently they “begrudgingly included the bread” — and there is — “No word if this heart-stopping sandwich will make it to the U.S.”

    Read more:

    That was worth a chuckle. If they do come to the U.S., I’ll happily eat one of those, minus the bread.

  22. Rocky Angelucci

    Awesome podcast! Your daughters are wonderful.

    I played sections of it for my seven year old daughter. Even though most of our family and friends have improved their diets, most of her school peers have not, making her stand out a bit at lunchtime. I think she was reassured hearing other kids her age talking about appreciating a better diet while sometimes feeling different around their peers.

    As an aside, my daughter took the book I wrote (Don’t Die Early) to school a while back and her teacher borrowed it off of my daughter’s desk during recess. The teacher contacted me some weeks later and said that she had purchased her own copy of the book and it had compelled her to change her diet. “The less wheat I eat, the better I feel,” she wrote in her email.

    At least that’s one teacher who won’t be shoving grains at the students nor confiscating their whole-fat yogurt.

    One at a time adds up.

  23. Jillian

    Totally enjoyed your family interview. Kudos to y’ll for getting such a great jump start on a healthy life for your girls.

  24. Denise

    I thoroughly enjoyed this charming interview with your family. Your girls are very smart and well able to express themselves, but I loved it the most when they dissolved into giggles. What a happy sound!

    They’re happy kids and giggle a lot. I love that sound.

  25. Clint

    Didn’t want to apear like fanatics? I love that, I need to tone it down, I tend to be out spoken.
    Your daughter is so right, vegetables vs nothing, mothers don’t give in, my niece always gives in, children really know how to manipulate, I sure did.
    I also like that you let your daughters enjoy the birthday parties they go to, I rarely go out to eat, but when I do, it’s with family (parents, brother, and nieces) and altho I would like to just no worry about it and cheat since 95% of the time eat paleo/primal, in front of my family, I feel I need to set an example, so I am very selective at restaurants.
    Thank you Tom for a GREAT podcast!!

    Thanks for listening.

  26. MITBeta

    Great show, cute kids (“I break the cookie in half…”). I suffered from “tonsil stones” throughout my 20s but never could find any specific cause. I, too, have not had one in years.

    I’m inspired to start cutting more refined carbs from my kids’ diet. I’ve been almost gluten free for about 1.5 years and recently got very serious about eliminating other carbs, like rice, potato, etc. from my own diet. I’ve seen the results on the scale and in other ways. I’ve always scratched my head about the dilemma of serving my kids something that I find to be unhealthy for myself. Some meals, however, find my youngest eaters passing up the meat and veggies on their plates (cooked in butter, or coconut oil, no less) in favor of plain. white. rice. (sigh).

    I guess there simply comes a time to stop serving rice and let them eat veggies and meat or go hungry, no?

    Sure, but rice wouldn’t be on my hit-list for kids, unless they’re going crazy on the stuff and ignoring the other items on their plates. I feel the same about white potatoes for kids: if they’re not already fat or showing signs of metabolic damage, I don’t believe potatoes as part of a meal will hurt them. I don’t eat them, but that’s because they give me glucose spikes.

  27. labrat

    Interesting interview with one of the SDHS investigators came out on Medscape today.

    plus they have a bunch of articles on the latest Med diet study.

    This is fun: Pritikin advocate defends lo-fat against the latest Med diet study.

    The links take me to pages that ask for a password, but I have no doubt the Pritikin advocates are denying the evidence.

  28. Trish

    Your daughters made me giggle madly, particularly when they chastised their mother for having a heavy hand with the sour cream in the spinach. Alana’s sarcastic “as long as you don’t overdo the sour cream, MOM” literally made me snort with laughter. If they’re this awesome at nine and almost eight, they’ll be women to be reckoned with. Thank you for letting us listen to your very awesome family. Oh, yeah–and you’re totally boxing outside your weight with Chareva. 😉

    I thought the same when I started dating Chareva, but she married me anyway. The girls are already a force to be reckoned with.

  29. labrat

    Tom, Medscape requires registration – but it’s free. The interview with Dr. Ramsden is a quite enlightening. He’s a rarity in my book. A fairly honest researcher. My favorite quote from the article.

    For a little perspective, if you eat a diet from foods that are raised naturally — it doesn’t matter if it is predominantly vegetable-based or meat-based — as everybody would have done up until about 100 years ago, you are going to consume something like 2%-3% of calories from linoleic acid. So with that perspective, the burden of proof would seem to be on the group advocating changes from what you would get in a natural diet, rather than vice versa.

  30. Dave

    Listening to you and your family, I couldn’t help thinking about a documentary of a raw vegan family that I saw a few years ago. How very lucky your girls are to be raised by parents who don’t equate animal foods and cooking with ‘junk food’!!

    If animals are junk food, I guess our paleo ancestors were junk-food addicts.

  31. George Wilson

    I have often wondered (happily) why our boys don’t have the same weight problems as my wife and I. It finally occurred to me that the root was my wife making baby food from scratch. Real food, not processed. Later we were the opposite of our parents who went by the ‘clean plate’ doctrine. “Eat, don’t eat”, was our philosophy. They never went hungry, they just didn’t eat to be eating

    I think it’s silly to order kids to eat everything on their plates — unless they try to get away with skipping dinner and then filling up later on junk.

  32. Rae F.

    You know I used to have the throat crud too. But, I never attributed it to eating bread before this. Makes sense. Also glad to know that I wasn’t the only one.

  33. Lynda

    Hello Tom and Chareva

    My husband and I listened to your podcast last night while travelling away in the car. I loved it! My children are grown but I have two grandsons and luckily they are not being bought up like I was – my blood sugar is like yours, I’m fine as long as I stay away from potatoes etc.

    What I really enjoyed was you relaxed attitude about your eating. There are so many “paleo police” out there who say if you’re not doing this or that then you are not right. For me it is about a total lifestyle and we have been wheat free now for 18 months. I’ve commented here before about how watching Fathead was the “lightbulb” moment for us but it too “Wheat Belly” to make it click even more.

    Your family is delightful and it was lovely to hear your lovely wife. Thank you again for changing my life, for that is what you did.

    Thank you, Lynda. I agree with Mark Sisson (and others) that the key is to do it right most of the time. We don’t want the girls to feel as if they’re living in dietary straightjackets and rebel as soon as they leave home.


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