The Farm Report: Visitors

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Chareva left town on Friday to accompany our niece back to Los Angeles and then stay a few days to visit her California pals.  She’ll return on Tuesday.  This means I’ve been getting up 6:00 AM or so to feed the dogs and let them outside, water the garden, and make sure the chickens and the guinea fowl have food and water.  Chareva isn’t the sneaky type, but I can’t help but wonder if she planned this trip to make sure I appreciate what she does in the morning while I’m still snoozing.

After two days of talking to no one except my two children, I was delighted when adults showed up yesterday in the form of Jimmy Moore and his wife Christine.  They’re visiting until Friday, and so far I’ve actually been able to talk to Jimmy for a cumulative total of at least 15 minutes when my daughters aren’t busy pestering him.  They seem to consider him the human equivalent of an amusement-park ride and have taken to calling him Uncle Jimmy.

I’ve been following Jimmy’s N=1 experiment with staying in nutritional ketosis on his blog, and I could tell as soon as I saw him that it’s a successful experiment so far.  It’s only been about six weeks since I saw him on the cruise and he’s already noticeably leaner.

After Jimmy and Christine had a chance to tour the mini-farm and introduce themselves to the chickens and the guinea fowl, I introduced Jimmy to the joys of Frisbee golf.  I believe I may have created a monster.  By mid-afternoon, we’d already played 33 holes.  It would have been 36, but a badly-needed rain drove us inside with three holes to go in our second round.

I knew Jimmy had become a fan of the game when the first sprinkles were landing on us and, perhaps unconsciously imitating Bill Murray’s character in Caddyshack, he suggested that the heavy stuff probably wouldn’t come down for awhile and we may as well continue.  When we saw lightning strike nearby, we went inside.  You don’t want to be the tallest object in a pasture when lightning strikes.  When the rain stopped, we played another 18.

After playing dozens and dozens of rounds in the past several months, I’ve established a player’s par, an amateur’s par and a kid’s par (otherwise known as Sara’s par) on the course.  Jimmy started getting the hang of the game a lot faster than I did, so after exactly one nine-hole round, he renounced his amateur status and insisted on playing as a player.  This decision led to the well-deserved nickname (which he gave himself) of The Bogey Man.  I would’ve been high-fiving myself if I’d been throwing bogeys my first day out.  (I remember a few +5 holes I’d rather not think about. ) So given his quick progress, I should probably be relieved he’s leaving on Friday.  He might be shooting birdies by then.

With out-of-town visitors, Chareva returning tomorrow, the Fourth of July, etc., I’ll be tied up this week.  I’ll check comments, but probably won’t post again until Monday.

Happy Fourth of July, everyone.

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42 thoughts on “The Farm Report: Visitors

  1. moreporkplease

    This should put paid to the h8erz who say Jimmy’s a lazy gluttonous couch potato who can’t lose weight and doesn’t work out! Seems like a good time was had by all! 🙂

    He is definitely not lazy. We ended up playing 42 holes today (the final nine after dinner) and would have gone another nine if darkness hadn’t put an end to the fun.

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  2. Lynda

    Wow, yes Jimmy is looking leaner! How wonderful to have that time to spend together. Two of the most influential men in my life and if I’m not mistaken in many people’s lives. Thank you to both of your for all that you do to promote change in eating.

    Thank you, Lynda. I’m delighted to have Jimmy and Christine with us for the Fourth.

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  3. Ari

    Tom, Frisbies are the low fat high carb diets of the flying disc world.

    Want a better disc? Get an Aerobie Superdisc. Flies straighter and more accurate. You’ll be getting eagles in no time.
    http://aerobie.com/products/superdisc.htm

    Well, I call them frisbees, but they’re actually made specifically for disc golf. There are rules about legal size and weight.

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  4. Ari

    Check this out: Aerobie makes a golf disc.

    http://aerobie.com/products/epic.htm

    I’ve never tried it, but judging by Aerobies other products, it’s probably awesome.

    I’ll give that a look. I’ve found that choosing discs is like choosing golf clubs: what’s perfect for one player will produce a screaming hook or slice for another.

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  5. moreporkplease

    This should put paid to the h8erz who say Jimmy’s a lazy gluttonous couch potato who can’t lose weight and doesn’t work out! Seems like a good time was had by all! 🙂

    He is definitely not lazy. We ended up playing 42 holes today (the final nine after dinner) and would have gone another nine if darkness hadn’t put an end to the fun.

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  6. Lynda

    Wow, yes Jimmy is looking leaner! How wonderful to have that time to spend together. Two of the most influential men in my life and if I’m not mistaken in many people’s lives. Thank you to both of your for all that you do to promote change in eating.

    Thank you, Lynda. I’m delighted to have Jimmy and Christine with us for the Fourth.

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  7. Ari

    Tom, Frisbies are the low fat high carb diets of the flying disc world.

    Want a better disc? Get an Aerobie Superdisc. Flies straighter and more accurate. You’ll be getting eagles in no time.
    http://aerobie.com/products/superdisc.htm

    Well, I call them frisbees, but they’re actually made specifically for disc golf. There are rules about legal size and weight.

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  8. Ari

    Check this out: Aerobie makes a golf disc.

    http://aerobie.com/products/epic.htm

    I’ve never tried it, but judging by Aerobies other products, it’s probably awesome.

    I’ll give that a look. I’ve found that choosing discs is like choosing golf clubs: what’s perfect for one player will produce a screaming hook or slice for another.

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  9. Kim

    Living in GA, it’s an absolute necessity to water the garden daily – – and I’m sure it’s the same in TN. It is SO worth it to invest in a DIY sprinkler system. I got all the tubes and sprinkler heads from Home Depot. They have all different shapes (ex: quarter-circles, good for the corners) and sizes (some spray 12″, others 12′) . Add in an automatic timer that you can set for X time of day every X number of days and go for X minutes … and now I don’t have to stand around for 30 min getting mosquito bites every morning! Totally worth the ~$80-100.

    We’ll look into that. I don’t much enjoy standing there spraying the plants.

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  10. Firebird7478

    I’m confused. Jimmy has been blogging for some time and championing the HFLC diet. Did he lose weight then put it all back on and is now losing again, or did some illness or injury put him in a condition to become heavy again. I’m not being an agitator, just looking for some clarification. I’m not certain of what his circumstances were. I was always under the impression that he was heavy, got lean and stayed lean.

    He lost 180 pounds some years back, then slowly re-gained 70 pounds. He was getting all kinds of advice and tried calorie restriction, less fat, more protein, safe starches, etc., etc. Nothing worked. Drs. Volek and Phinney explained that just eating low-carb doesn’t necessarily mean staying in ketosis. Some people are kicked out of ketosis by too much protein. So Jimmy got a ketosis meter that tests blood ketones, adjusted his diet as Volek and Phinney recommended, kept adjusting to stay in ketosis. Since that adjustment, he’s been losing weight again.

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  11. Kim

    Living in GA, it’s an absolute necessity to water the garden daily – – and I’m sure it’s the same in TN. It is SO worth it to invest in a DIY sprinkler system. I got all the tubes and sprinkler heads from Home Depot. They have all different shapes (ex: quarter-circles, good for the corners) and sizes (some spray 12″, others 12′) . Add in an automatic timer that you can set for X time of day every X number of days and go for X minutes … and now I don’t have to stand around for 30 min getting mosquito bites every morning! Totally worth the ~$80-100.

    We’ll look into that. I don’t much enjoy standing there spraying the plants.

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  12. Galina L.

    I am glad Jimmy is getting better. I started to think recently he was mainly contributing to mass education by being an example of that only counting carbs was not enough without trying to eat less After reading about his experiment with sweet potatoes, I basically gave-up on him and stopped commenting on his blog, because I thought he couldn’t eat normal food without adding abnormal amount of sweeteners, flavors and butter to it. I will be most happy to be proved wrong. I truly wish him well, he is a nice guy.

    Trust me, the creeping weight gain annoyed him more than it annoyed anyone who reads his blog. He was receiving conflicting advice from people he respects, so he kept trying different approaches. The nutritional ketosis approach is the one that appears to be working. After playing 51 holes of disc golf with him in the past two days (with more to go this evening when the heat dissipates a bit), I can testify that he’s not lacking in energy on this diet.

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  13. Firebird7478

    I’m confused. Jimmy has been blogging for some time and championing the HFLC diet. Did he lose weight then put it all back on and is now losing again, or did some illness or injury put him in a condition to become heavy again. I’m not being an agitator, just looking for some clarification. I’m not certain of what his circumstances were. I was always under the impression that he was heavy, got lean and stayed lean.

    He lost 180 pounds some years back, then slowly re-gained 70 pounds. He was getting all kinds of advice and tried calorie restriction, less fat, more protein, safe starches, etc., etc. Nothing worked. Drs. Volek and Phinney explained that just eating low-carb doesn’t necessarily mean staying in ketosis. Some people are kicked out of ketosis by too much protein. So Jimmy got a ketosis meter that tests blood ketones, adjusted his diet as Volek and Phinney recommended, kept adjusting to stay in ketosis. Since that adjustment, he’s been losing weight again.

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  14. johnny

    Jimmy has to be the most maligned diet spokesman in the world, mostly regarding his weight. Right now he looks skinnier than Warren Sapp and Vince Wilkford, who are about his height and are idolized by millions.

    I cannot understand this pathological hatred towards him. What has he ever done? To my knowledge, he’s never hurt anybody.

    Pathological is right. I’ve gotten to know Jimmy very well, and he’s one of the sweetest people on earth. He doesn’t deserve the venom some sickos spew at him.

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  15. Galina L.

    I am glad Jimmy is getting better. I started to think recently he was mainly contributing to mass education by being an example of that only counting carbs was not enough without trying to eat less After reading about his experiment with sweet potatoes, I basically gave-up on him and stopped commenting on his blog, because I thought he couldn’t eat normal food without adding abnormal amount of sweeteners, flavors and butter to it. I will be most happy to be proved wrong. I truly wish him well, he is a nice guy.

    Trust me, the creeping weight gain annoyed him more than it annoyed anyone who reads his blog. He was receiving conflicting advice from people he respects, so he kept trying different approaches. The nutritional ketosis approach is the one that appears to be working. After playing 51 holes of disc golf with him in the past two days (with more to go this evening when the heat dissipates a bit), I can testify that he’s not lacking in energy on this diet.

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  16. johnny

    Jimmy has to be the most maligned diet spokesman in the world, mostly regarding his weight. Right now he looks skinnier than Warren Sapp and Vince Wilkford, who are about his height and are idolized by millions.

    I cannot understand this pathological hatred towards him. What has he ever done? To my knowledge, he’s never hurt anybody.

    Pathological is right. I’ve gotten to know Jimmy very well, and he’s one of the sweetest people on earth. He doesn’t deserve the venom some sickos spew at him.

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  17. Ash Simmonds

    One thing that befuddled me when I saw his ketogenic blog last month was that Jimmy is a long-term champion of low-carb, and yet he was writing like he was surprised at the results (increased energy, no cravings, no hunger, better sleep, more endurance, general well-being etc) as if he’d never even researched nutritional ketosis before? Hell, one of his best podcasts to date was the one with Mark Sisson which was all about ketosis and covered all this quite well.

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  18. Ash Simmonds

    One thing that befuddled me when I saw his ketogenic blog last month was that Jimmy is a long-term champion of low-carb, and yet he was writing like he was surprised at the results (increased energy, no cravings, no hunger, better sleep, more endurance, general well-being etc) as if he’d never even researched nutritional ketosis before? Hell, one of his best podcasts to date was the one with Mark Sisson which was all about ketosis and covered all this quite well.

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  19. Marilyn

    I’ll chime in here, too. I, too, feel sad when people criticize Jimmy for regaining some of the weight he lost. Unless those critics have lost 180 pounds themselves and kept it off for at least 10 years, they can just keep still! (That’s more polite than what I’m really thinking.) I’m very glad Jimmy is now back on Atkins induction — with precision. I always cringed when he would be a nice guy and try out other folks’ latest brainchild diets.

    Jimmy, if you’re still visiting Tom, I hope you’re reading this. I support you 100%!

    In clinical diet trials, success is usually defined as losing 10% of body weight and keeping it off. Even with what he regained, Jimmy was 25% lighter than when he started.

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  20. Marilyn

    I’ll chime in here, too. I, too, feel sad when people criticize Jimmy for regaining some of the weight he lost. Unless those critics have lost 180 pounds themselves and kept it off for at least 10 years, they can just keep still! (That’s more polite than what I’m really thinking.) I’m very glad Jimmy is now back on Atkins induction — with precision. I always cringed when he would be a nice guy and try out other folks’ latest brainchild diets.

    Jimmy, if you’re still visiting Tom, I hope you’re reading this. I support you 100%!

    In clinical diet trials, success is usually defined as losing 10% of body weight and keeping it off. Even with what he regained, Jimmy was 25% lighter than when he started.

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  21. Heather Dreith

    Well, at least Jimmy won’t have to worry about what he’s eating at your home! That can be a pain when traveling, especially when staying in others’ homes. You, however, would be the perfect host! Hope you all are having a great visit

    It’s been a great visit. Jimmy brought a cooler of foods and has been doing some of the cooking, so I’ve been on his diet too, at least partially.

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  22. Heather Dreith

    Well, at least Jimmy won’t have to worry about what he’s eating at your home! That can be a pain when traveling, especially when staying in others’ homes. You, however, would be the perfect host! Hope you all are having a great visit

    It’s been a great visit. Jimmy brought a cooler of foods and has been doing some of the cooking, so I’ve been on his diet too, at least partially.

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  23. pam

    i’m like Galina;

    i also gave up on Jimmy too after his sweet potato experiment.

    (i do like butter a great deal but sweet potato is sweet enough.)

    i think it’s better to retrain one’s palate than relying on crutch (sweetener). as much as i dislike “food reward theory” & “bland food”, perhaps Jimmy ought to give it a try to recalibrate his palate.

    too bad. i like him; he seems such a sweet guy.

    regards,

    I haven’t seen him using sweeteners in what he’s cooked this week.

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  24. Jimmy Moore

    Thanks for the comments everyone. Ash, I’d like to address your concerns regarding what I’m doing now compared to what I was doing. Yes, I’m quite well aware of the benefits of ketosis long before that ATLCX podcast with Sisson about it. And the thing is I was eating what I thought was a pretty darn good ketogenic low-carb diet. The problem was neglecting the importance of keeping fat intake high enough and being mindful of total protein being adequate and not high. That has made all the difference in the world. I’m looking forward to sharing my 60-day update on my blog in a couple of weeks. Some interesting challenges these past 30 days. Having fun with my bud Tom. See ya soon!

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  25. pam

    i’m like Galina;

    i also gave up on Jimmy too after his sweet potato experiment.

    (i do like butter a great deal but sweet potato is sweet enough.)

    i think it’s better to retrain one’s palate than relying on crutch (sweetener). as much as i dislike “food reward theory” & “bland food”, perhaps Jimmy ought to give it a try to recalibrate his palate.

    too bad. i like him; he seems such a sweet guy.

    regards,

    I haven’t seen him using sweeteners in what he’s cooked this week.

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  26. Jimmy Moore

    Thanks for the comments everyone. Ash, I’d like to address your concerns regarding what I’m doing now compared to what I was doing. Yes, I’m quite well aware of the benefits of ketosis long before that ATLCX podcast with Sisson about it. And the thing is I was eating what I thought was a pretty darn good ketogenic low-carb diet. The problem was neglecting the importance of keeping fat intake high enough and being mindful of total protein being adequate and not high. That has made all the difference in the world. I’m looking forward to sharing my 60-day update on my blog in a couple of weeks. Some interesting challenges these past 30 days. Having fun with my bud Tom. See ya soon!

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  27. Ailu

    Honestly, Jimmy Mooore and his wife have gotta be the sweetest people in the low carb crowd ever. Totally makes sense that you are all such good friends. Thank for sharing the pics. 🙂

    They are indeed. It’s been lovely hanging out with them all week.

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  28. Ailu

    Honestly, Jimmy Mooore and his wife have gotta be the sweetest people in the low carb crowd ever. Totally makes sense that you are all such good friends. Thank for sharing the pics. 🙂

    They are indeed. It’s been lovely hanging out with them all week.

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  29. NM

    Jimmy, your experience seems to validate a lot of the work that Peter from Hyperlipid has been saying: to succeed at this diet, you *really* have to emphasise fat – all that nonsense about “lean meats” and “safe starches” is actually throwing a spanner in many people’s success. As ever, Gary Taubes is once again proven right: IT’S THE INSULIN, STUPID 🙂 And we know that there’s only one macronutrient that doesn’t stimulate its production. Fat.

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  30. NM

    Jimmy, your experience seems to validate a lot of the work that Peter from Hyperlipid has been saying: to succeed at this diet, you *really* have to emphasise fat – all that nonsense about “lean meats” and “safe starches” is actually throwing a spanner in many people’s success. As ever, Gary Taubes is once again proven right: IT’S THE INSULIN, STUPID 🙂 And we know that there’s only one macronutrient that doesn’t stimulate its production. Fat.

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  31. Elaine Schiff

    Doing great on the low carb-no sugar -hard to convince people in my family, had blood work checked and it’s awesome-so will just walk the walk-and stop talking unless I am asked-thank you , since I will soon be 80 this was a good time not to carry the extra weight-and don’t want to take pills. God Bless-

    Excellent, Elaine.

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  32. Elaine Schiff

    Doing great on the low carb-no sugar -hard to convince people in my family, had blood work checked and it’s awesome-so will just walk the walk-and stop talking unless I am asked-thank you , since I will soon be 80 this was a good time not to carry the extra weight-and don’t want to take pills. God Bless-

    Excellent, Elaine.

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  33. Jeanie

    Elaine,
    It’s great to see a post from a low carber who is also 70ish.
    I wasn’t sure if the LC livestyle would be successful for me because of 25 years of Ornish type advice that caused metabolic syndrome and now full blown DM. I thought perhaps I was too old and my body too damaged from “healthy food”, statins, etc.

    I now have incentive to continue!

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  34. Jeanie

    Elaine,
    It’s great to see a post from a low carber who is also 70ish.
    I wasn’t sure if the LC livestyle would be successful for me because of 25 years of Ornish type advice that caused metabolic syndrome and now full blown DM. I thought perhaps I was too old and my body too damaged from “healthy food”, statins, etc.

    I now have incentive to continue!

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  35. Chris

    Hi Tom,

    Just wondering if you have come across any reliable research that may back the claim that eating some carbs, especially later in the day, may to help raise serotonin levels – which could be a good thing?

    http://www.serotoninpowerdiet.com/press_mit.php

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-antidepressant-diet/201008/serotonin-what-it-is-and-why-its-important-weight-loss

    Any thoughts?

    Thank you,

    Chris

    I’ve experimented with adding some starchy carbs to my diet and haven’t noticed any benefits. I find the Psychology Today article a bit odd. If carbs are such a great appetite suppressant, why have Americans gotten fatter as carbohydrate intake (and only carbohydrate intake) rose over the past 30 years?

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  36. Chris

    Hi Tom,

    Just wondering if you have come across any reliable research that may back the claim that eating some carbs, especially later in the day, may to help raise serotonin levels – which could be a good thing?

    http://www.serotoninpowerdiet.com/press_mit.php

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-antidepressant-diet/201008/serotonin-what-it-is-and-why-its-important-weight-loss

    Any thoughts?

    Thank you,

    Chris

    I’ve experimented with adding some starchy carbs to my diet and haven’t noticed any benefits. I find the Psychology Today article a bit odd. If carbs are such a great appetite suppressant, why have Americans gotten fatter as carbohydrate intake (and only carbohydrate intake) rose over the past 30 years?

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