Busy Writing …

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I’m taking tonight off to work on my presentation at a meeting of the Office of Research Integrity in D.C., which is just over two weeks away now.

For those of you who don’t already know, I was recruited by Dr. Richard Feinman, who is on a mission to convince the ORI that biased, manipulated, and cherry-picked research is doing damage to the nation’s health.  His group is giving four presentations in all.

My assignment (with input from Jimmy Moore and Laura Dolson) is to explain why large and growing numbers of people no longer trust doctors, nutritionists, government committees and other officially-recognized experts and are turning instead to the internet and social media to find health and nutrition advice that actually works.

Not that I’d know anything about that …

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  1. Daniel Duncan

    best of luck to you Tom! maybe i’m just pessimistic but i think its going to take our currency tanking and our government to completely fail before most people will start thinking for themselves.

    but you do have a way with words and fight the good fight!

    Our government failing? You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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  2. Thomas

    Maybe we don’t trust doctors and nutritionists because the advice they give us makes us waste 30 years of our lives being fat, hungry, depressed, tired, and in my case pre-diabetic. Maybe we are even a little pissed at them because we watched our grandparents die of cancers and heart attacks right after vegetable oils became widespread in part because they told our grandparents that these fats would be better for us than the stuff we evolved to eat.

    Maybe we are even a little more pissed when we think about the years of torment we went through as a fat kid because our parents thought they were doing the right thing and these doctors and nutritionists were making us feel even worse because we couldn’t possibly be eating as they told us and still gain weight.

    I would say it is a little more than a trust deficit. I for one would like an apology. I won’t hold my breath.

    I share your anger.

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  3. Patricia

    omg! What if they really listened?! What if published studies actually had to tell the truth?! What if this changed the world as we know it?!

    What? Huh? No, no, I’m awake now . . . it was just a dream.

    But what if . . . ?

    Just tap your slippers together and you’ll be back in Kansas.

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  4. Jana

    I just watched the presentations of the Weston A Price Foundation London conference from December 2011. Zoë Harcombe did a fantastic job at showing the UK conflicts of interest in their government dietary advice. No wonder no one trusts the ADA or other agencies when they’re sponsored by Mars and Soyjoy, etc. I’m sure you’ve already watched them if you didn’t go to the conference yourself but I definitely thought your other readers would like to go check it out. They’re posted in the video section of the Weston A Price foundation website.

    I hope your presentation gets some traction with the government officials. We need this bias advice to stop being promoted by agencies that have such a vast influence on society.

    I will give that a look. Zoe’s great.

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  5. Dori Wilson

    Tom,
    Will they be recording this in any video type format? Would be awesome to see your presentation.

    On a side note, I really love reading your blog because you are so relateable and damn funny!! Opps, I meant @#$%!

    I’m not sure if anyone is recording. I suppose I should take my video camera along.

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  6. LCNana

    Someone above made a comment about low carb or paleo being too expensive for poor people, but I think the gal who blogs on Weight of the Evidence proved that was incorrect. She used the same budget a welfare person would have (I think it was a little more than $5+ per person per day) and was able to shop in one store near her home, using the store flyer. The point there was that she didn’t have to drive all over town to find bargains. She bought nutritious food for a week and was able to stay pretty low carb – and no junk either. If I recall correctly she even bought organic milk for her son. It can be done!!!

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  7. Kevin

    One of my best friends in high school (class of 2002) was a Type I diabetic. We played drums in the marching band, and he was allowed to leave and go to the concession stand to eat something as his glucose levels required. He also required someone to go with him, so I got to leave whenever I wanted (which was great). The concept seemed pretty simple back – diabetics can’t handle the fluctuations in sugar and must manually regulate, which ideally would lead them to avoid sugars and starch.
    Fast forward to 2012, and I have a 57-year old coworker who looks like DEATH every day, and that’s if he can make it in to work (he’s frequently been written up for missing work). He’s diabetic, and his wife bakes him cookies and treats, and all he eats is sugar snacks, bread, and low-fat turkey. The arthritis pain is so strong he drinks 6 – 8 drinks of alcohol EVERY DAY. After hearing this, the doctor was horrified and told him to keep the low-fat diet but not drink 6 beers a day. Fortunately, he’s now switched to lower-carb hard liquor. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy just drops dead, and it’s just alarming that the doctor’s can’t figure out something that is on the level of a high-school science education.

    Also, there is another coworker of mine who is 50 years old, eats a diet right of Mark Sisson’s cookbook everyday, and is about 6’1″ and 165 on a heavy day.

    At 28, I can already see what the best preventative medicine is for my health.

    What’s the most typical questions you get when you get push-back from naysayers? Are there ANY studies that show an abundance of sugar and starch in the diet will make you any healthier? The more I read into this whole “nutrition” concept, the more I can’t believe what is considered fact is held as the standard.

    You’re fortunate to have this figured out at age 28. I was pushing 50. On the other hand, it’s nice when my wife insists I look better now than on our wedding day 12 years earlier.

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  8. Elenor

    “I’m not sure if anyone is recording. I suppose I should take my video camera along.”

    Hey Tom,
    You might pick up a Sansa Clip — little bitty MP3 player/recorder that clips on your lapel — excellent mic, excellent recordings. I used to record my husband when he’d get in lecturing mode (economic theory, male-female relationships, history… whatever…) and it even recorded him well-enough in the car over the car noise! Having the Clip on your lapel would let you record your talk, and then you can add slides (if you use them — like you have in your speeches — or just make the audio file available.

    People don’t notice when you’re wearing a Clip and recording… (Anyway, it’s a public venue, no assumption of privacy, so probably no law against recording yourself and your interlocutors!)

    I’m really excited that you’ve been asked and are doing this. BRAVO!!

    I’ll look into that. Even if a camera is allowed, it would be good to have audio recorded close to the source.

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  9. CathyN

    Well, this is exciting news. What a great idea! I was just about ready to stab myself in the head with my pen from frustration when your wonderful announcement came up. I’m surrounded by vegetarians who are fat and sick and yet feeling somehow virtuous abut their piles of beans and soy. BTW, with nary a vegetable in sight on their lunch plates, where did the term “vegetarian” come from? Sorry, I’m just a bit torqued (no, really?).

    Tom, you and the others who are leaders of this Paleo revolution (that’s the best word I can come up with right now) are very pro-active and are making positive changes in many people’s lives. Thank you.

    I don’t know if I’ll make a dent, but it’s worth a try.

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  10. Galina L.

    I am sorry for being a pessimist, but I am sure they will not be able to put together the right advice, consider all interests involved .

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  11. Nick P

    Tom,

    Why not just have them watch “Fat Head?” – It’s my favorite movie!!!!!

    We all appreciate you and Jimmy fighting the good fight!!!! Keep up the great work!!!

    If I could squeeze Fat Head down to 20 minutes, I’d show it to them.

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  12. LCNana

    Someone above made a comment about low carb or paleo being too expensive for poor people, but I think the gal who blogs on Weight of the Evidence proved that was incorrect. She used the same budget a welfare person would have (I think it was a little more than $5+ per person per day) and was able to shop in one store near her home, using the store flyer. The point there was that she didn’t have to drive all over town to find bargains. She bought nutritious food for a week and was able to stay pretty low carb – and no junk either. If I recall correctly she even bought organic milk for her son. It can be done!!!

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  13. Kevin

    One of my best friends in high school (class of 2002) was a Type I diabetic. We played drums in the marching band, and he was allowed to leave and go to the concession stand to eat something as his glucose levels required. He also required someone to go with him, so I got to leave whenever I wanted (which was great). The concept seemed pretty simple back – diabetics can’t handle the fluctuations in sugar and must manually regulate, which ideally would lead them to avoid sugars and starch.
    Fast forward to 2012, and I have a 57-year old coworker who looks like DEATH every day, and that’s if he can make it in to work (he’s frequently been written up for missing work). He’s diabetic, and his wife bakes him cookies and treats, and all he eats is sugar snacks, bread, and low-fat turkey. The arthritis pain is so strong he drinks 6 – 8 drinks of alcohol EVERY DAY. After hearing this, the doctor was horrified and told him to keep the low-fat diet but not drink 6 beers a day. Fortunately, he’s now switched to lower-carb hard liquor. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy just drops dead, and it’s just alarming that the doctor’s can’t figure out something that is on the level of a high-school science education.

    Also, there is another coworker of mine who is 50 years old, eats a diet right of Mark Sisson’s cookbook everyday, and is about 6’1″ and 165 on a heavy day.

    At 28, I can already see what the best preventative medicine is for my health.

    What’s the most typical questions you get when you get push-back from naysayers? Are there ANY studies that show an abundance of sugar and starch in the diet will make you any healthier? The more I read into this whole “nutrition” concept, the more I can’t believe what is considered fact is held as the standard.

    You’re fortunate to have this figured out at age 28. I was pushing 50. On the other hand, it’s nice when my wife insists I look better now than on our wedding day 12 years earlier.

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  14. Auntie M

    I live about an hour outside of DC! The traffic sucks, but it’s been warmer than usual lately, so hopefully you’ll have good weather.

    If would be nice if you could make a dent in the armor. I’m not holding my breath, though. There are too many interest groups fighting it out there to make much of an impact, in my opinion. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I hope they don’t take your presentation and try to figure out how to make people listen to them by infiltrating or restricting the internet. They’re already trying to mess with us in that department…

    By the way, I’m not sure if I mentioned that I’ve gotten through to at least one co-worker, who now loves Fathead and watches her carbs. She’s grateful that she learned the truth after following the low-fat diet for so long. Yay, you!

    All we can do is make our case. Whether or not they listen is out of our hands.

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  15. Elenor

    “I’m not sure if anyone is recording. I suppose I should take my video camera along.”

    Hey Tom,
    You might pick up a Sansa Clip — little bitty MP3 player/recorder that clips on your lapel — excellent mic, excellent recordings. I used to record my husband when he’d get in lecturing mode (economic theory, male-female relationships, history… whatever…) and it even recorded him well-enough in the car over the car noise! Having the Clip on your lapel would let you record your talk, and then you can add slides (if you use them — like you have in your speeches — or just make the audio file available.

    People don’t notice when you’re wearing a Clip and recording… (Anyway, it’s a public venue, no assumption of privacy, so probably no law against recording yourself and your interlocutors!)

    I’m really excited that you’ve been asked and are doing this. BRAVO!!

    I’ll look into that. Even if a camera is allowed, it would be good to have audio recorded close to the source.

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  16. Galina L.

    I am sorry for being a pessimist, but I am sure they will not be able to put together the right advice, consider all interests involved .

    Reply
  17. Nick P

    Tom,

    Why not just have them watch “Fat Head?” – It’s my favorite movie!!!!!

    We all appreciate you and Jimmy fighting the good fight!!!! Keep up the great work!!!

    If I could squeeze Fat Head down to 20 minutes, I’d show it to them.

    Reply
  18. Auntie M

    I live about an hour outside of DC! The traffic sucks, but it’s been warmer than usual lately, so hopefully you’ll have good weather.

    If would be nice if you could make a dent in the armor. I’m not holding my breath, though. There are too many interest groups fighting it out there to make much of an impact, in my opinion. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I hope they don’t take your presentation and try to figure out how to make people listen to them by infiltrating or restricting the internet. They’re already trying to mess with us in that department…

    By the way, I’m not sure if I mentioned that I’ve gotten through to at least one co-worker, who now loves Fathead and watches her carbs. She’s grateful that she learned the truth after following the low-fat diet for so long. Yay, you!

    All we can do is make our case. Whether or not they listen is out of our hands.

    Reply
  19. Michael Hall

    Federal health officials Tuesday added new safety alerts to the prescribing information of statins, cholesterol-reducing medications that are among the most widely prescribed drugs in the world, citing rare risks of memory loss, diabetes and muscle pain.
    It is the first time that the Food and Drug Administration has officially linked statin use with cognitive problems such as forgetfulness and confusion, although some patients have reported such problems for years. Among the drugs affected are such huge sellers as Lipitor, Zocor, Crestor and Vytorin.
    But federal officials and some medical experts said the new alerts should not scare people away from statins.
    “The value of statins in preventing heart disease has been clearly established,” said Dr. Amy Egan, deputy director for safety in the FDA’s division of metabolism and endocrinology products. “Their benefit is indisputable, but they need to be taken with care and knowledge of their side effects.”
    Diabetics and even those who develop diabetes while taking statins should continue taking the medicines, said Dr. Steven Nissen, chairman of cardiovascular medicine at the Cleveland Clinic. Nissen has studied the medicines extensively. “These are not major issues, and they really do not alter the decision-making process with regard to statins,” Nissen said
    and Jesus Wept

    Rare side effects, my #$$.

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  20. Ralph, Cleethorpes, UK

    I can only speak for myself; my mistrust started from the way that western healthy eating guidelines seem to follow each other like sheep, claiming to be ‘evidence based’, without explanation as to why important apparent contradictory evidence is ignored.

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  21. Ari

    What really ticks me off about all the bad advice we get from the government and medical establishment is that it puts the good advice into doubt.

    For instance, the advice to get vaccinated and to establish herd immunity. Enough herd immunity, and certain vaccines won’t be necessary anymore (just like the smallpox vaccine isn’t necessary anymore).

    Well, with so much untruth coming out of government advice mills, why should we trust them about the vaccines? I know we should because good studies say we should and logic says we should.

    But the bad advice just makes the good advice look bad by association.

    Very good point.

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  22. Jason

    Good luck, fine sir! You have really inspired me; your movie is the first piece of “alt-nutrition” information I ingested this summer. It made me curious, interested, and frankly a little bit upset.

    I switched my diet, began using IF, changed my training methods, the whole 9. My wife was nervous I would be compromised due to the large amount of fat in my diet. So I made an appointment for a full physical.

    Every single metric, BP, pulse, and all lipids were the best they had ever been, ever. The best BP I had ever had was 120/75, and it was measured at 112/64.

    My doctor was shocked and asked what I was doing. I had lost 30 lbs and my numbers were fantastic. I described everything I had learned to that point.

    He told me I needed to lower my fat content and get more healthy whole grains.

    I asked him, “Doc, what number would you like to see change?”

    He answered, “Well, none, I guess.”

    I answered, “Then why the hell would I change a single thing?”

    Then he actually smiled and said, “Fair enough. This definitely gives me something to think about.”

    Maybe, just maybe, my experience could change a doctor’s perspective, which in turn, could change many of his patients’ perspectives.

    Let’s hope he keeps thinking about it, too.

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  23. LaurieLM

    You had us at Bacon. I know you are busy, but this is worth a quick look.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/opinion/overdiagnosis-as-a-flaw-in-health-care.html?emc=eta1

    “Overdiagnosis as a flaw in health care.
    If You Feel O.K., Maybe You Are O.K.
    By H. GILBERT WELCH
    Published: February 27, 2012 ”
    “The basic strategy behind early diagnosis is to encourage the well to get examined — to determine if they are not, in fact, sick. But is looking hard for things to be wrong a good way to promote health? The truth is, the fastest way to get heart disease, autism, glaucoma, diabetes, vascular problems, osteoporosis or cancer … is to be screened for it. In other words, the problem is overdiagnosis and overtreatment.

    Screening the apparently healthy potentially saves a few lives (although the National Cancer Institute couldn’t find any evidence for this in its recent large studies of prostate and ovarian cancer screening). But it definitely drags many others into the system needlessly — into needless appointments, needless tests, needless drugs and needless operations (not to mention all the accompanying needless insurance forms). “

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  24. LaurieLM

    Five years ago my 83 year old Father-in-law died of, what I now think was, Lipitor- induced CHF. He wasn’t permitted much salt and not even allowed to drink too much water. Lowered cholesterol, not enough salt and not enough fluid most likely killed him.
    In the intervening time I’ve learned, outside of the medical establishment and online, that none of the elderly, neither men nor women, should ever take Lipitor. Yet millions in this category take it. As far as I’m concerned, Lipitor does not produce any medical benefit to anyone. It only makes mega profits for a very few. How many patients would willingly sign on to take an expensive pill (even if their health insurance ‘pays’ for it) that provides no benefit and can make them sick?
    No wonder lots of curious, intelligent people turn to the internet for information after losing patience and faith in their, mostly uninformed, beleaguered (most do mean well) docs.
    About three years ago, my husband and I decided to stop his Lipitor. He was 52 and had been on it for years by then. We were a little nervous, at first. Going against medical advice is uncomfortable. We are no longer afraid that that decision was dangerous or wrong.

    I saw what Lipitor did to my father. I wouldn’t take the stuff no matter what a doctor told me.

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  25. Michael Hall

    Federal health officials Tuesday added new safety alerts to the prescribing information of statins, cholesterol-reducing medications that are among the most widely prescribed drugs in the world, citing rare risks of memory loss, diabetes and muscle pain.
    It is the first time that the Food and Drug Administration has officially linked statin use with cognitive problems such as forgetfulness and confusion, although some patients have reported such problems for years. Among the drugs affected are such huge sellers as Lipitor, Zocor, Crestor and Vytorin.
    But federal officials and some medical experts said the new alerts should not scare people away from statins.
    “The value of statins in preventing heart disease has been clearly established,” said Dr. Amy Egan, deputy director for safety in the FDA’s division of metabolism and endocrinology products. “Their benefit is indisputable, but they need to be taken with care and knowledge of their side effects.”
    Diabetics and even those who develop diabetes while taking statins should continue taking the medicines, said Dr. Steven Nissen, chairman of cardiovascular medicine at the Cleveland Clinic. Nissen has studied the medicines extensively. “These are not major issues, and they really do not alter the decision-making process with regard to statins,” Nissen said
    and Jesus Wept

    Rare side effects, my #$$.

    Reply
  26. Ralph, Cleethorpes, UK

    I can only speak for myself; my mistrust started from the way that western healthy eating guidelines seem to follow each other like sheep, claiming to be ‘evidence based’, without explanation as to why important apparent contradictory evidence is ignored.

    Reply
  27. Ari

    What really ticks me off about all the bad advice we get from the government and medical establishment is that it puts the good advice into doubt.

    For instance, the advice to get vaccinated and to establish herd immunity. Enough herd immunity, and certain vaccines won’t be necessary anymore (just like the smallpox vaccine isn’t necessary anymore).

    Well, with so much untruth coming out of government advice mills, why should we trust them about the vaccines? I know we should because good studies say we should and logic says we should.

    But the bad advice just makes the good advice look bad by association.

    Very good point.

    Reply
  28. TonyNZ

    In case you weren’t aware, which I would find hard to believe, the FDA has just added diabetes and memory loss to the list of “official” statin side effects, but still encourages you to take them.

    Good luck for your speech. Will this one be uploaded viz Science for Smart People and Big Fat Fiasco?

    Yup, I saw that.

    Reply
  29. Jason

    Good luck, fine sir! You have really inspired me; your movie is the first piece of “alt-nutrition” information I ingested this summer. It made me curious, interested, and frankly a little bit upset.

    I switched my diet, began using IF, changed my training methods, the whole 9. My wife was nervous I would be compromised due to the large amount of fat in my diet. So I made an appointment for a full physical.

    Every single metric, BP, pulse, and all lipids were the best they had ever been, ever. The best BP I had ever had was 120/75, and it was measured at 112/64.

    My doctor was shocked and asked what I was doing. I had lost 30 lbs and my numbers were fantastic. I described everything I had learned to that point.

    He told me I needed to lower my fat content and get more healthy whole grains.

    I asked him, “Doc, what number would you like to see change?”

    He answered, “Well, none, I guess.”

    I answered, “Then why the hell would I change a single thing?”

    Then he actually smiled and said, “Fair enough. This definitely gives me something to think about.”

    Maybe, just maybe, my experience could change a doctor’s perspective, which in turn, could change many of his patients’ perspectives.

    Let’s hope he keeps thinking about it, too.

    Reply
  30. LaurieLM

    You had us at Bacon. I know you are busy, but this is worth a quick look.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/opinion/overdiagnosis-as-a-flaw-in-health-care.html?emc=eta1

    “Overdiagnosis as a flaw in health care.
    If You Feel O.K., Maybe You Are O.K.
    By H. GILBERT WELCH
    Published: February 27, 2012 ”
    “The basic strategy behind early diagnosis is to encourage the well to get examined — to determine if they are not, in fact, sick. But is looking hard for things to be wrong a good way to promote health? The truth is, the fastest way to get heart disease, autism, glaucoma, diabetes, vascular problems, osteoporosis or cancer … is to be screened for it. In other words, the problem is overdiagnosis and overtreatment.

    Screening the apparently healthy potentially saves a few lives (although the National Cancer Institute couldn’t find any evidence for this in its recent large studies of prostate and ovarian cancer screening). But it definitely drags many others into the system needlessly — into needless appointments, needless tests, needless drugs and needless operations (not to mention all the accompanying needless insurance forms). “

    Reply
  31. LaurieLM

    Five years ago my 83 year old Father-in-law died of, what I now think was, Lipitor- induced CHF. He wasn’t permitted much salt and not even allowed to drink too much water. Lowered cholesterol, not enough salt and not enough fluid most likely killed him.
    In the intervening time I’ve learned, outside of the medical establishment and online, that none of the elderly, neither men nor women, should ever take Lipitor. Yet millions in this category take it. As far as I’m concerned, Lipitor does not produce any medical benefit to anyone. It only makes mega profits for a very few. How many patients would willingly sign on to take an expensive pill (even if their health insurance ‘pays’ for it) that provides no benefit and can make them sick?
    No wonder lots of curious, intelligent people turn to the internet for information after losing patience and faith in their, mostly uninformed, beleaguered (most do mean well) docs.
    About three years ago, my husband and I decided to stop his Lipitor. He was 52 and had been on it for years by then. We were a little nervous, at first. Going against medical advice is uncomfortable. We are no longer afraid that that decision was dangerous or wrong.

    I saw what Lipitor did to my father. I wouldn’t take the stuff no matter what a doctor told me.

    Reply
  32. Erik

    You could make a 20 minute or so lite version of Fathead by focusing on the interviews with the scientists and taking out most of the Spurlock-specific stuff. You could hand out DVD’s to people who attend events like this.

    That would be the featherweight version.

    Reply
  33. TonyNZ

    In case you weren’t aware, which I would find hard to believe, the FDA has just added diabetes and memory loss to the list of “official” statin side effects, but still encourages you to take them.

    Good luck for your speech. Will this one be uploaded viz Science for Smart People and Big Fat Fiasco?

    Yup, I saw that.

    Reply
  34. Erik

    You could make a 20 minute or so lite version of Fathead by focusing on the interviews with the scientists and taking out most of the Spurlock-specific stuff. You could hand out DVD’s to people who attend events like this.

    That would be the featherweight version.

    Reply
  35. Ghost

    Hey there Tom,

    First off, don’t listen to the folks who say you need some sexy celeb, I think you’re adorable! Plus, you’ve got a voice that’s great to listen to, I like throwing FatHead on whenever I need something comfortable to listen to, that part about the “I’m actually feeling pretty good!” gets me EVERY TIME!

    Truth be told, I’m glad you’re going to go speak. I’d be way interested in a trans-script or a video (Bring your camera! ^_^) as I’ve had my own doctor-ly troubles in my recent past, from them enforcing their own morals on me (I want off BC for my health (I’m on it so I’m not in crippling pain and anemic all the time!), but my OBGYN refused to give me any options towards more permanent solutions that don’t involve bleeding because I ‘May change my mind’ on not wanting children, but she’d be totally willing to help me HAVE them! I’d rather regret not having them, than have them, and regret that!)

    It was about then that I decided that I needed to do my research on my own. And, thanks to your video, and Marks Daily Apple, I’ve been doing fantastic! 25lbs down! 125 to go!

    That’s a great start. Here’s to the next 125.

    Reply
  36. Ghost

    Hey there Tom,

    First off, don’t listen to the folks who say you need some sexy celeb, I think you’re adorable! Plus, you’ve got a voice that’s great to listen to, I like throwing FatHead on whenever I need something comfortable to listen to, that part about the “I’m actually feeling pretty good!” gets me EVERY TIME!

    Truth be told, I’m glad you’re going to go speak. I’d be way interested in a trans-script or a video (Bring your camera! ^_^) as I’ve had my own doctor-ly troubles in my recent past, from them enforcing their own morals on me (I want off BC for my health (I’m on it so I’m not in crippling pain and anemic all the time!), but my OBGYN refused to give me any options towards more permanent solutions that don’t involve bleeding because I ‘May change my mind’ on not wanting children, but she’d be totally willing to help me HAVE them! I’d rather regret not having them, than have them, and regret that!)

    It was about then that I decided that I needed to do my research on my own. And, thanks to your video, and Marks Daily Apple, I’ve been doing fantastic! 25lbs down! 125 to go!

    That’s a great start. Here’s to the next 125.

    Reply
  37. Nowhereman

    There’s still some hope:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/4-health-rules-break-today-160000576.html

    Wow, red meat is okay, as long as it isn’t processed, and saturated fat is okay and even immune system boosting? Holy crap! What a concept!

    Now if the media would report more on studies, like the 2010 Harvard one cited in the article, we might get somewhere, and they need to consistently report on it, and not give contradictory information.

    Also, Tom or anyone heard of this study? I’d like to hear more about it, and I’d like to know why it never was publicized, like a lot of the anti-meat and saturated fat studies are.

    Not enough information there to track down the study.

    Reply
  38. Nowhereman

    There’s still some hope:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/4-health-rules-break-today-160000576.html

    Wow, red meat is okay, as long as it isn’t processed, and saturated fat is okay and even immune system boosting? Holy crap! What a concept!

    Now if the media would report more on studies, like the 2010 Harvard one cited in the article, we might get somewhere, and they need to consistently report on it, and not give contradictory information.

    Also, Tom or anyone heard of this study? I’d like to hear more about it, and I’d like to know why it never was publicized, like a lot of the anti-meat and saturated fat studies are.

    Not enough information there to track down the study.

    Reply

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