53 thoughts on “Weekend Bonus: Anti-War Petition

  1. Howard

    I’m not much into “internet petitions” even if I agree with them. They are pretty much pointless. Ineffective. Better to get our elected “representatives” to watch the short video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I on personal responsibility vs. government oppression. The idea that we should own our own lives seems to be completely foreign to our leadership.

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  2. Howard

    I’m not much into “internet petitions” even if I agree with them. They are pretty much pointless. Ineffective. Better to get our elected “representatives” to watch the short video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I on personal responsibility vs. government oppression. The idea that we should own our own lives seems to be completely foreign to our leadership.

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  3. LaurieLM

    Off topic, want your opinion. I saw an ad for ‘M & M’s and it made me wonder if they were vegan or not. Needless to say I found a vegetarian discussion board that confirmed they are not vegan (because of the milk-no doubt low-fat) but they are indeed vegetarian. I think my brain will go into spasm because of this. Let me get this straight, an invented ‘food’ like ‘M & M’s— a vegetarian can eat, but they can’t have a steak? Absurdumb infinitum.

    Yeah, I know; it boggles the mind. Reminds of a friend who once gave me a lecture about not buying cream from a grocery unless I was 100% sure the cow wasn’t treated with hormones. Then she stepped outside to smoke a cigarette.

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  4. Linda

    Totally OT, but, since I am not a blogger and do not know if you are able to see or notice comments made on really old posts, I am putting it here.

    After following a LCHF regimen for 2 1/2 years, I began eating LC flatbreads and pita breads back in January. At the same time I also began experiencing really crappy aches and pains in the hips and lower back. Did not put 2 and 2 together until I discovered this awesome site. I am so happy to have found this place and I appreciate all of the helpful information provided by you and the awesome posters who comment here.

    My question? I gave up all flour products exactly 4 weeks ago, and, as of this AM, the aches and pains are gone! Why does it take so long for this to happen? Any idea why it takes so long [28 days] for the problem to be resolved?

    It appears to vary. Some people experience relief within days. I suppose it may have taken your body that long to get over the inflammation.

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  5. Firebird

    It is more effective to write to your representatives individually than to sign a petition. The volume of mail leaves a much more lasting impression.

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  6. LaurieLM

    Off topic, want your opinion. I saw an ad for ‘M & M’s and it made me wonder if they were vegan or not. Needless to say I found a vegetarian discussion board that confirmed they are not vegan (because of the milk-no doubt low-fat) but they are indeed vegetarian. I think my brain will go into spasm because of this. Let me get this straight, an invented ‘food’ like ‘M & M’s— a vegetarian can eat, but they can’t have a steak? Absurdumb infinitum.

    Yeah, I know; it boggles the mind. Reminds of a friend who once gave me a lecture about not buying cream from a grocery unless I was 100% sure the cow wasn’t treated with hormones. Then she stepped outside to smoke a cigarette.

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  7. Linda

    Totally OT, but, since I am not a blogger and do not know if you are able to see or notice comments made on really old posts, I am putting it here.

    After following a LCHF regimen for 2 1/2 years, I began eating LC flatbreads and pita breads back in January. At the same time I also began experiencing really crappy aches and pains in the hips and lower back. Did not put 2 and 2 together until I discovered this awesome site. I am so happy to have found this place and I appreciate all of the helpful information provided by you and the awesome posters who comment here.

    My question? I gave up all flour products exactly 4 weeks ago, and, as of this AM, the aches and pains are gone! Why does it take so long for this to happen? Any idea why it takes so long [28 days] for the problem to be resolved?

    It appears to vary. Some people experience relief within days. I suppose it may have taken your body that long to get over the inflammation.

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  8. Firebird

    It is more effective to write to your representatives individually than to sign a petition. The volume of mail leaves a much more lasting impression.

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  9. Erica

    I signed it, from the fb post. Who knows if it will really help, but it certainly made me feel better!

    I figure it can’t hurt.

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  10. James Gegner

    I’m also not really into online petitions either, but if we can get even ONE politician to finally see the light, then we will have cleared a major hurdle in the quest to change what “everyone knows,” as you referred to in a previous post.

    I went ahead and signed the petition. Thanks for the link, Tom.

    Thank you.

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  11. Erica

    I signed it, from the fb post. Who knows if it will really help, but it certainly made me feel better!

    I figure it can’t hurt.

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  12. Nick

    I happily signed the petition. I also forwarded it on to my Low Carb Friends. I don’t think it will take long to reach the goal of 300. We should strive for a number much higher than that!

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  13. James Gegner

    I’m also not really into online petitions either, but if we can get even ONE politician to finally see the light, then we will have cleared a major hurdle in the quest to change what “everyone knows,” as you referred to in a previous post.

    I went ahead and signed the petition. Thanks for the link, Tom.

    Thank you.

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  14. Nick

    I happily signed the petition. I also forwarded it on to my Low Carb Friends. I don’t think it will take long to reach the goal of 300. We should strive for a number much higher than that!

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  15. Barry

    Went to the petition and saw that SignOn.org was a beta site created by MoveOn.org. Had a real hard time putting my name on that one. Actually kind of surprised they hadn’t nixed the petition yet. After all, the petition does mention McGovern.

    Give it time, they may deep-six it.

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  16. LaurieLM

    War on Miss and Mr Information. Boston Globs Sunday June 12, 2011 Magazine, horrifying interview with pediatrician in Duxbury MA Allan Kornberg. He’s against industrial inhumane factory farms- yeah yes- but a sorely mistaken vegan. no way, ICK , nah.
    QUestion: Don’t humans need animal protein?
    AK : ” I can put on my doctor hat and say no. We simply don’t. All the protein we need is available from plant sources.”
    Question: You’re not just campaigning for better conditions; you want us to stop eating animals?
    AK : I’ve been a vegetarian for 20 years and vegan for 10. My cholesterol dropped from 200 to 144.”
    I can’t go on any more, this is too painful. My heartfelt condolences to him for the inadequate state and deficits of cholesterol in his system. And if any readers out there have children and live in the Boston Ma area, you don’t know me from Adam, but I would recommend you find another pedi and not seek AK for his advice. He might test your child as young as 5 for cholesterol and start them on the poisonous to a develpping brain, Lipitor, as young as 8. Steer clear of him.

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  17. M

    I’m sure that petitions like this one don’t help “the cause.” They run the risk of making persons who support low-carb eating look a little more wing-nutty than we already look to the mainstream.

    This — “[getting] even ONE politician to finally see the light” — ain’t gonna happen with a petition.

    Be the proof, yourself, and convince one friend, one doctor, or one family member at a time, by your example. That influence is more profound than a petition that will be dismissed in a heartbeat as representing an unacceptable notion.

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  18. Ricardo

    Tom is there a ideal diet for mankind? We all seem to have different views on diets but pretty much everyone agrees that Refined Carbs and processed sugar is bad.

    Humans evolved in different parts of the world with different food sources. I don’t think there’s a single diet that’s best for all of us, but yes, skipping the sugar and refined carbs would be the recommendation I’d make for everyone.

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  19. Barry

    Went to the petition and saw that SignOn.org was a beta site created by MoveOn.org. Had a real hard time putting my name on that one. Actually kind of surprised they hadn’t nixed the petition yet. After all, the petition does mention McGovern.

    Give it time, they may deep-six it.

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  20. LaurieLM

    My letter-to-the-editor to the Globe Magazine about Doc Kornberg’s interview.

    Why don’t you interview a real expert in human nutrition ? I recommend MIT computer science prof., Dr Stephanie Seneff.

    http://stephanie-on-health.blogspot.com/

    As to the honest, honorable but sorely misinformed, Dr Kornberg, I would like to extend to him my heartfelt condolences on his severe deficits of cholesterol-sulfate in his system and brain. And I’m sorry for his misplaced and very sad glee at such a detrimental state of affairs in his body and mind.

    Laurie
    dept. of biochemistry, Mount Holyoke College

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  21. LaurieLM

    War on Miss and Mr Information. Boston Globs Sunday June 12, 2011 Magazine, horrifying interview with pediatrician in Duxbury MA Allan Kornberg. He’s against industrial inhumane factory farms- yeah yes- but a sorely mistaken vegan. no way, ICK , nah.
    QUestion: Don’t humans need animal protein?
    AK : ” I can put on my doctor hat and say no. We simply don’t. All the protein we need is available from plant sources.”
    Question: You’re not just campaigning for better conditions; you want us to stop eating animals?
    AK : I’ve been a vegetarian for 20 years and vegan for 10. My cholesterol dropped from 200 to 144.”
    I can’t go on any more, this is too painful. My heartfelt condolences to him for the inadequate state and deficits of cholesterol in his system. And if any readers out there have children and live in the Boston Ma area, you don’t know me from Adam, but I would recommend you find another pedi and not seek AK for his advice. He might test your child as young as 5 for cholesterol and start them on the poisonous to a develpping brain, Lipitor, as young as 8. Steer clear of him.

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  22. M

    I’m sure that petitions like this one don’t help “the cause.” They run the risk of making persons who support low-carb eating look a little more wing-nutty than we already look to the mainstream.

    This — “[getting] even ONE politician to finally see the light” — ain’t gonna happen with a petition.

    Be the proof, yourself, and convince one friend, one doctor, or one family member at a time, by your example. That influence is more profound than a petition that will be dismissed in a heartbeat as representing an unacceptable notion.

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  23. Ricardo

    Tom is there a ideal diet for mankind? We all seem to have different views on diets but pretty much everyone agrees that Refined Carbs and processed sugar is bad.

    Humans evolved in different parts of the world with different food sources. I don’t think there’s a single diet that’s best for all of us, but yes, skipping the sugar and refined carbs would be the recommendation I’d make for everyone.

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  24. LaurieLM

    My letter-to-the-editor to the Globe Magazine about Doc Kornberg’s interview.

    Why don’t you interview a real expert in human nutrition ? I recommend MIT computer science prof., Dr Stephanie Seneff.

    http://stephanie-on-health.blogspot.com/

    As to the honest, honorable but sorely misinformed, Dr Kornberg, I would like to extend to him my heartfelt condolences on his severe deficits of cholesterol-sulfate in his system and brain. And I’m sorry for his misplaced and very sad glee at such a detrimental state of affairs in his body and mind.

    Laurie
    dept. of biochemistry, Mount Holyoke College

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  25. Andrés

    Just a “little” off-topic… Have you seen “Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business”? (free full documentary June, 11-13 on

    main page http://www.burzynskimovie.com/, Mercola’s sum-up http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/11/burzynski-the-movie.aspx). I checked a pair of references… and they exist. I hadn’t heard of him before and I have to say that the documentary has certainly shocked me.

    On one hand, it looks like a pretty big conspiracy theory. On the other hand, if you’re not a little paranoid these days, it means you’re not paying attention.

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  26. Marilyn

    Barry, I went to the former vegetarian site. I didn’t find any way to comment. So, I’ll comment here. One of the biggest myths of vegetarianism is that their way of eating doesn’t harm animals. Actually, in terms of sheer numbers, eating meat probably kills fewer animals than does the process of raising and storing crops such as grain and soy. It’s just that the animals killed and injured by tilling, harvesting and storing crops are invisible to people the eating their “ethical” tofurkey, rice and beans, etc. I, too, sometimes cringe at the idea that animals must die so I can eat. But vegetarianism isn’t the answer.

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  27. Marilyn

    Barry, I went to the former vegetarian site. I didn’t find any way to comment. So, I’ll comment here. One of the biggest myths of vegetarianism is that their way of eating doesn’t harm animals. Actually, in terms of sheer numbers, eating meat probably kills fewer animals than does the process of raising and storing crops such as grain and soy. It’s just that the animals killed and injured by tilling, harvesting and storing crops are invisible to people the eating their “ethical” tofurkey, rice and beans, etc. I, too, sometimes cringe at the idea that animals must die so I can eat. But vegetarianism isn’t the answer.

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  28. damaged justice

    Of course we anti-statists know that whenever government makes war on something, like Poverty, they get more of that something as a result.

    Amen.

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  29. Jane M

    I just wanted to mention that I’ve noticed more and more how full-fat products are missing on the shelves. It is impossible to find full-fat yogurt anymore, and Trader Joe’s, for instance, doesn’t carry full-fat coconut milk or yogurt. I’m furious!

    That surprises me. Trader Joe’s is usually ahead of the curve. My wife buys Cabot brand full-fat Greek style yogurt at Publix here in Tennessee. You can always ask your local grocer to stock it. They do listen to requests.

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  30. damaged justice

    Of course we anti-statists know that whenever government makes war on something, like Poverty, they get more of that something as a result.

    Amen.

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  31. Jane M

    I just wanted to mention that I’ve noticed more and more how full-fat products are missing on the shelves. It is impossible to find full-fat yogurt anymore, and Trader Joe’s, for instance, doesn’t carry full-fat coconut milk or yogurt. I’m furious!

    That surprises me. Trader Joe’s is usually ahead of the curve. My wife buys Cabot brand full-fat Greek style yogurt at Publix here in Tennessee. You can always ask your local grocer to stock it. They do listen to requests.

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  32. Dan

    Like Dana said, this reminds me of previous “wars” that were called “police actions.” It is just more government encroachment on our freedom. Though I beleive in low carb, I don’t want the government forcing it on other people just like I wouldn’t want the government forcing low fat on me. The government should get out of the nutrition & food subsidy business entirely.

    Texas congressman and presidental candidate Ron Paul has put in a bill to allow raw milk sales across state lines and would no doubt like to reverse the growing food tyranny. (OOOH, am I getting too political for this blog?????) 🙂

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/06/raw-milk-freedom/
    http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul741.html

    One of the many reasons I like Ron Paul.

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  33. Dan

    Like Dana said, this reminds me of previous “wars” that were called “police actions.” It is just more government encroachment on our freedom. Though I beleive in low carb, I don’t want the government forcing it on other people just like I wouldn’t want the government forcing low fat on me. The government should get out of the nutrition & food subsidy business entirely.

    Texas congressman and presidental candidate Ron Paul has put in a bill to allow raw milk sales across state lines and would no doubt like to reverse the growing food tyranny. (OOOH, am I getting too political for this blog?????) 🙂

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/06/raw-milk-freedom/
    http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul741.html

    One of the many reasons I like Ron Paul.

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  34. Erik

    We can’t even get our elected officials to stop photographing their penises and uploading them to Twitter.

    All that fuss over so many little things.

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