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		<title>By: Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just now going back and reading some of your older posts. This is by far my favorite! I literally wanted to stand up and cheer in parts! I wish my liberal, pro-carb friends could read it with an open mind. But, they&#039;re so brainwashed ... I&#039;ve learned over the years that we just have to steer-clear of politics in conversation.

&lt;em&gt;I really, really hope I get a chance to debate MeMe someday.  You can imagine why.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just now going back and reading some of your older posts. This is by far my favorite! I literally wanted to stand up and cheer in parts! I wish my liberal, pro-carb friends could read it with an open mind. But, they&#8217;re so brainwashed &#8230; I&#8217;ve learned over the years that we just have to steer-clear of politics in conversation.</p>
<p><em>I really, really hope I get a chance to debate MeMe someday.  You can imagine why.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Darth Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, according to Michael Jacobson, you&#039;re a dangerous extremist for talking bad about Monsanto.

http://freedomandlinux.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/cspis-michael-jacobson-smears-obesity-truthers-and-anti-monsanto-activists-as-dangerous-extremists/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, according to Michael Jacobson, you&#8217;re a dangerous extremist for talking bad about Monsanto.</p>
<p><a href="http://freedomandlinux.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/cspis-michael-jacobson-smears-obesity-truthers-and-anti-monsanto-activists-as-dangerous-extremists/" rel="nofollow">http://freedomandlinux.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/cspis-michael-jacobson-smears-obesity-truthers-and-anti-monsanto-activists-as-dangerous-extremists/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Calhoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Calhoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Notice that MeMe Roth who says I am lucky she is sticking her nose into what my kids eat wears a lot of make up and hair dye and provocative clothing. Coming from law enforcement I can tell you that if she toned all of that down she would greatly reduce her risk of sexual assault. Would she be lucky if I made it my passion to scrub all that make up off and put her in a burka?

&lt;em&gt;Sure, just explain to her that it&#039;s for her own good.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Notice that MeMe Roth who says I am lucky she is sticking her nose into what my kids eat wears a lot of make up and hair dye and provocative clothing. Coming from law enforcement I can tell you that if she toned all of that down she would greatly reduce her risk of sexual assault. Would she be lucky if I made it my passion to scrub all that make up off and put her in a burka?</p>
<p><em>Sure, just explain to her that it&#8217;s for her own good.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ramona Denton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramona Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am only recently learning about the libertarian point of view, and I really agree with a lot of the ideas I have identified as libertarian. 

Your numbers make quite an impression...

Really loved this post, Tom. Thanks!

&lt;em&gt;The Founders were pretty much all libertarians.  What&#039;s considered libertarian now -- and fairly radical to boot -- used to be known as upholding the Constitution.&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only recently learning about the libertarian point of view, and I really agree with a lot of the ideas I have identified as libertarian. </p>
<p>Your numbers make quite an impression&#8230;</p>
<p>Really loved this post, Tom. Thanks!</p>
<p><em>The Founders were pretty much all libertarians.  What&#8217;s considered libertarian now &#8212; and fairly radical to boot &#8212; used to be known as upholding the Constitution.</em></p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your stuff!

Once upon a time I weighed about 150# more than my still fat self. It was great for the social environment how I was not &#039;accepted and encouraged&#039; by, for example, having clothing or shoes to fit. 

So in the snow in wintertime, I wore 4 homemade skirts and slippers or flip-flops. And when I tried to mow the high grass in spring, with all the great bugs and twigs and so on, half of nature could be crawling and flying up my legs and I&#039;d be trying to keep my skirt out of the weedeater. Hard to understand why I didn&#039;t really want to go anywhere... or do yard work.

Not that this had anything to do with an entire society of people who, when I was thin and a performing artist thought I was cool and witty, but when I got hugely fat decided that I was morally depraved and disgusting. (Ironically I ate like crap when thin, and ate vastly less when fat. People unfamiliar with real science don&#039;t believe it, but it&#039;s true. One assumes I wrecked my metabolism with the first behavior. Still, why was I cool when thin, despite my eating, and not cool no matter what when fat, despite my eating, if &#039;eating&#039; is allegedly the reason people are biased about weight?)

I lost some weight and over time, some online stores have actually started to cater to 6x reasonable pants, and I found some (men&#039;s) tennis shoes, and WOW. You wouldn&#039;t believe how much more inspired I am to get out and DO something physical when I have clothes that fit me, and that don&#039;t make me feel humiliated, and that are appropriate for the weather or the activity!

Now, I can wear my pants and go sit on the bleachers at a sports game. When my kid was little, I couldn&#039;t climb the bleachers, they always had the bottom one full, and it&#039;s windy and my skirts were a problem, and no portable chair would fit me (and I couldn&#039;t sit on the wet grass as it&#039;d take me a long time to get up, with my legs asleep etc.). I couldn&#039;t stand for 1-2 hours (nor could the thin people who brought chairs). Nor could I fit in some of the bathroom stalls and actually move around as necessary in them, eeek. So I watched my kids&#039; sports from a distance in the car. (&quot;I saw you baby!&quot; yeah sure.) 

Yet they wonder why a lot of really big people &quot;sit around the house in their pajamas.&quot; Huh, go figure right? 

I avoided public things that would have gotten me out of the house and ACTIVE and engaged in life, because nothing fit me, chairs wouldn&#039;t fit me, and a surprisingly high number of people were occasionally so openly hostile, rude or insulting I didn&#039;t want to  go to the grocery store, never mind public/social events. I&#039;ve had perfect strangers at banks, DMVs, etc. take one look at me, apparently project all their personal fears upon me as the Representative of Fat or something, and be so bizarrely, surreally hostile that a line of strangers behind me were gasping and commenting.  Suuuuuuure it&#039;s &quot;acceptable&quot; to be fat. Please, let&#039;s put Me Me in a fat suit and send her out into the world, shall we? I would be more than happy to share reality from my perspective.

So industry starts to make a few (a FEW) clothing lines that fit supersized people. Hey guess what, I can pay $120 for a dress a size 9 person would pay $14.99 for (it ain&#039;t just the extra fabric). But at least I can leave the house. At least I can FUNCTION in proper clothing. Industry starts to make a few (a FEW) options in the commercial world for big folks -- so I can get an armless chair at a restaurant and attend grandfather&#039;s 80th birthday party. (And should I eat 1/5 what half the thin people there do, nobody will notice this, of course; if you inhale more than air when fat, people look at you like well! That explains everything!)

In one side of my family, all the women are gigantic. In the other side, they&#039;re not -- but they&#039;re all sick. At a recent family gathering I realized that only me and a cousin (a mostly lowcarb natural bodybuilder) actually were seemingly healthy. Not a single person in the big packed house was NOT on one or more medications, hadn&#039;t had major organs removed, etc. Yet they&#039;re all giving me advice on how not eating a &quot;balanced&quot; diet with whole grains and potatoes and fruits will harm me. (&quot;Since when is sugar a food group I need to balance?&quot; I say.) Yet aside from my size I&#039;m very healthy and getting moreso all the time. Oh, but THEY are the ones advising -- since, not being fat (or not as much as me), they obviously are the experts on all things health, oh brother!

Meanwhile skinny bitches like Me Me Roth make a career out of having different genetics and metabolism than &#039;some other people&#039;, like this is some god-given evidence of moral superiority. In a different time she&#039;d be the dude petitioning against letting the &#039;indians&#039; or blacks into public places. It&#039;s just her own -ism and this is the only one left &#039;allowed&#039;.

She&#039;s too stupid to be embarrassed for herself. But while annoying it can sometimes be, in a very dark way, sort of entertaining.

&lt;em&gt;Well said.  I remember making clothing decisions based solely on how well they hid my belly and (especially) my boy-boobs.  I actually hated to see warm weather return in spring because I couldn&#039;t wear thick sweaters anymore.

MeMe has never had to lose weight and has no idea what she&#039;s talking about.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your stuff!</p>
<p>Once upon a time I weighed about 150# more than my still fat self. It was great for the social environment how I was not &#8216;accepted and encouraged&#8217; by, for example, having clothing or shoes to fit. </p>
<p>So in the snow in wintertime, I wore 4 homemade skirts and slippers or flip-flops. And when I tried to mow the high grass in spring, with all the great bugs and twigs and so on, half of nature could be crawling and flying up my legs and I&#8217;d be trying to keep my skirt out of the weedeater. Hard to understand why I didn&#8217;t really want to go anywhere&#8230; or do yard work.</p>
<p>Not that this had anything to do with an entire society of people who, when I was thin and a performing artist thought I was cool and witty, but when I got hugely fat decided that I was morally depraved and disgusting. (Ironically I ate like crap when thin, and ate vastly less when fat. People unfamiliar with real science don&#8217;t believe it, but it&#8217;s true. One assumes I wrecked my metabolism with the first behavior. Still, why was I cool when thin, despite my eating, and not cool no matter what when fat, despite my eating, if &#8216;eating&#8217; is allegedly the reason people are biased about weight?)</p>
<p>I lost some weight and over time, some online stores have actually started to cater to 6x reasonable pants, and I found some (men&#8217;s) tennis shoes, and WOW. You wouldn&#8217;t believe how much more inspired I am to get out and DO something physical when I have clothes that fit me, and that don&#8217;t make me feel humiliated, and that are appropriate for the weather or the activity!</p>
<p>Now, I can wear my pants and go sit on the bleachers at a sports game. When my kid was little, I couldn&#8217;t climb the bleachers, they always had the bottom one full, and it&#8217;s windy and my skirts were a problem, and no portable chair would fit me (and I couldn&#8217;t sit on the wet grass as it&#8217;d take me a long time to get up, with my legs asleep etc.). I couldn&#8217;t stand for 1-2 hours (nor could the thin people who brought chairs). Nor could I fit in some of the bathroom stalls and actually move around as necessary in them, eeek. So I watched my kids&#8217; sports from a distance in the car. (&#8220;I saw you baby!&#8221; yeah sure.) </p>
<p>Yet they wonder why a lot of really big people &#8220;sit around the house in their pajamas.&#8221; Huh, go figure right? </p>
<p>I avoided public things that would have gotten me out of the house and ACTIVE and engaged in life, because nothing fit me, chairs wouldn&#8217;t fit me, and a surprisingly high number of people were occasionally so openly hostile, rude or insulting I didn&#8217;t want to  go to the grocery store, never mind public/social events. I&#8217;ve had perfect strangers at banks, DMVs, etc. take one look at me, apparently project all their personal fears upon me as the Representative of Fat or something, and be so bizarrely, surreally hostile that a line of strangers behind me were gasping and commenting.  Suuuuuuure it&#8217;s &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to be fat. Please, let&#8217;s put Me Me in a fat suit and send her out into the world, shall we? I would be more than happy to share reality from my perspective.</p>
<p>So industry starts to make a few (a FEW) clothing lines that fit supersized people. Hey guess what, I can pay $120 for a dress a size 9 person would pay $14.99 for (it ain&#8217;t just the extra fabric). But at least I can leave the house. At least I can FUNCTION in proper clothing. Industry starts to make a few (a FEW) options in the commercial world for big folks &#8212; so I can get an armless chair at a restaurant and attend grandfather&#8217;s 80th birthday party. (And should I eat 1/5 what half the thin people there do, nobody will notice this, of course; if you inhale more than air when fat, people look at you like well! That explains everything!)</p>
<p>In one side of my family, all the women are gigantic. In the other side, they&#8217;re not &#8212; but they&#8217;re all sick. At a recent family gathering I realized that only me and a cousin (a mostly lowcarb natural bodybuilder) actually were seemingly healthy. Not a single person in the big packed house was NOT on one or more medications, hadn&#8217;t had major organs removed, etc. Yet they&#8217;re all giving me advice on how not eating a &#8220;balanced&#8221; diet with whole grains and potatoes and fruits will harm me. (&#8220;Since when is sugar a food group I need to balance?&#8221; I say.) Yet aside from my size I&#8217;m very healthy and getting moreso all the time. Oh, but THEY are the ones advising &#8212; since, not being fat (or not as much as me), they obviously are the experts on all things health, oh brother!</p>
<p>Meanwhile skinny bitches like Me Me Roth make a career out of having different genetics and metabolism than &#8216;some other people&#8217;, like this is some god-given evidence of moral superiority. In a different time she&#8217;d be the dude petitioning against letting the &#8216;indians&#8217; or blacks into public places. It&#8217;s just her own -ism and this is the only one left &#8216;allowed&#8217;.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s too stupid to be embarrassed for herself. But while annoying it can sometimes be, in a very dark way, sort of entertaining.</p>
<p><em>Well said.  I remember making clothing decisions based solely on how well they hid my belly and (especially) my boy-boobs.  I actually hated to see warm weather return in spring because I couldn&#8217;t wear thick sweaters anymore.</p>
<p>MeMe has never had to lose weight and has no idea what she&#8217;s talking about.</em></p>
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		<title>By: HJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>HJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best, clearly-written and financial-evidence-citing (albeit in a delightfully snarky way) argument against MeMe Roth I&#039;ve ever seen.  Excellent work!

&lt;em&gt;MeMe definitely brings out the snark in me.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best, clearly-written and financial-evidence-citing (albeit in a delightfully snarky way) argument against MeMe Roth I&#8217;ve ever seen.  Excellent work!</p>
<p><em>MeMe definitely brings out the snark in me.</em></p>
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		<title>By: SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What I DO have a problem with is people, like me, who have tried ‘everything’ and think that they are honestly Doing The Right Thing. Of course they are - for Monsanto’s stock holders.

What I DO have a problem with is that I don’t know how to change this.&lt;/i&gt;

Aaron -

What you can change is the dieting mindset, the &quot;thin = better&quot; mindset, and the endless search for the &quot;right&quot; thing to eat/do/be.  Size Acceptance, Health at Every Size, intuitive eating/Ellyn Satter&#039;s &quot;eating competence,&quot; etc. can all be helpful.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What I DO have a problem with is people, like me, who have tried ‘everything’ and think that they are honestly Doing The Right Thing. Of course they are &#8211; for Monsanto’s stock holders.</p>
<p>What I DO have a problem with is that I don’t know how to change this.</i></p>
<p>Aaron -</p>
<p>What you can change is the dieting mindset, the &#8220;thin = better&#8221; mindset, and the endless search for the &#8220;right&#8221; thing to eat/do/be.  Size Acceptance, Health at Every Size, intuitive eating/Ellyn Satter&#8217;s &#8220;eating competence,&#8221; etc. can all be helpful.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of links about people questioning MeMe&#039;s credentials!
See people are onto her!

http://jezebel.com/5479381/just-what-are-meme-roths-qualifications-exactly?skyline=true&amp;s=i

http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2009/05/27/the-skinny-on-meme-roth/

&lt;em&gt;Her main credentials seems to be that has fat people in her family and she loathes fat people.  I thinks he needs therapy more than most fat people need to lose weight.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of links about people questioning MeMe&#8217;s credentials!<br />
See people are onto her!</p>
<p><a href="http://jezebel.com/5479381/just-what-are-meme-roths-qualifications-exactly?skyline=true&#038;s=i" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/5479381/just-what-are-meme-roths-qualifications-exactly?skyline=true&#038;s=i</a></p>
<p><a href="http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2009/05/27/the-skinny-on-meme-roth/" rel="nofollow">http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2009/05/27/the-skinny-on-meme-roth/</a></p>
<p><em>Her main credentials seems to be that has fat people in her family and she loathes fat people.  I thinks he needs therapy more than most fat people need to lose weight.</em></p>
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		<title>By: DrBillDean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrBillDean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom  well done thoughtful post I have a different slant on MeMe She represents a controversial point that needs to be discussed AND she did it (see you and I are discussing) Further this issue is not about blame anger and retaliation but trying to understand the obesity problem
Your point about who is really obese is an important one From an energy view strong Kapha&#039;s such as George Clooney will naturally have higher BMI&#039;s  
By understanding the energy pattern of Kapha we will begin to understand the obesity problem
By understanding the energy pattern of Vata we will begin to understand MeMe
                                                                To health as a skill DrBill

&lt;em&gt;What&#039;s a kapha?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom  well done thoughtful post I have a different slant on MeMe She represents a controversial point that needs to be discussed AND she did it (see you and I are discussing) Further this issue is not about blame anger and retaliation but trying to understand the obesity problem<br />
Your point about who is really obese is an important one From an energy view strong Kapha&#8217;s such as George Clooney will naturally have higher BMI&#8217;s<br />
By understanding the energy pattern of Kapha we will begin to understand the obesity problem<br />
By understanding the energy pattern of Vata we will begin to understand MeMe<br />
                                                                To health as a skill DrBill</p>
<p><em>What&#8217;s a kapha?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MeMe&#039;s at it again.  She&#039;s all over the news talking about Kevin Smith being kicked off a Southwest Airlines flight for being too large.  Tom, what&#039;s your take on the Southwest/Kevin Smith brouhaha?

&lt;em&gt;I have mixed feelings on that one.  Smith apparently buys two seats most of the time, but took this flight as a standby passenger and couldn&#039;t get two side-by-side seats.  Maybe Southwest was justified in not allowing him to squeeze into one seat for safety reasons or the comfort of other passengers, but it wasn&#039;t a great P.R. move on their part.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MeMe&#8217;s at it again.  She&#8217;s all over the news talking about Kevin Smith being kicked off a Southwest Airlines flight for being too large.  Tom, what&#8217;s your take on the Southwest/Kevin Smith brouhaha?</p>
<p><em>I have mixed feelings on that one.  Smith apparently buys two seats most of the time, but took this flight as a standby passenger and couldn&#8217;t get two side-by-side seats.  Maybe Southwest was justified in not allowing him to squeeze into one seat for safety reasons or the comfort of other passengers, but it wasn&#8217;t a great P.R. move on their part.</em></p>
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