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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, sorry about that. Does this one work?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhTTX7FUs5Q

Also, I noticed this article on the BBC website today (I&#039;m sure they wouldn&#039;t region-lock news articles...): 

Low carb diets like Atkins &#039;better for blood pressure&#039; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8478629.stm

I was surprised to see this because British television is currently flooded with diet shows pushing the low-fat dogma onto depressed obese people. Also there&#039;s a link on the right for an older article &quot;Low-carb diets &#039;damage arteries&#039;&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;The links works now.  Hilarious.  Is that from a weekly comedy show?

Yeah, isn&#039;t that something ... low-carb lowers blood pressure but damages arteries.  What a load of nonsense.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry about that. Does this one work?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhTTX7FUs5Q" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhTTX7FUs5Q</a></p>
<p>Also, I noticed this article on the BBC website today (I&#8217;m sure they wouldn&#8217;t region-lock news articles&#8230;): </p>
<p>Low carb diets like Atkins &#8216;better for blood pressure&#8217; <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8478629.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8478629.stm</a></p>
<p>I was surprised to see this because British television is currently flooded with diet shows pushing the low-fat dogma onto depressed obese people. Also there&#8217;s a link on the right for an older article &#8220;Low-carb diets &#8216;damage arteries&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>The links works now.  Hilarious.  Is that from a weekly comedy show?</p>
<p>Yeah, isn&#8217;t that something &#8230; low-carb lowers blood pressure but damages arteries.  What a load of nonsense.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for another funny and informative post, Tom. That meta-analysis study you linked to will be especially useful.

Here&#039;s another fake-meat related link you may find amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&amp;hl=en-GB&amp;v=1r3tx3IEsN4

&lt;em&gt;Apparently, the BBC has blocked the video from American audiences.  Thanks anyway.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another funny and informative post, Tom. That meta-analysis study you linked to will be especially useful.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another fake-meat related link you may find amusing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;v=1r3tx3IEsN4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;v=1r3tx3IEsN4</a></p>
<p><em>Apparently, the BBC has blocked the video from American audiences.  Thanks anyway.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m happy to learn that they are experimenting with growing meat.  That&#039;s been my own idea for some time now.  I figured, if they&#039;re theorizing about making organs that are good enough to transplant, then wouldn&#039;t those organs be good enough to eat?

With the ethical issue out of the way, vegetarians would finally have no reason not to eat meat.  And it really might come down to that for a lot of people.  I myself still feel bad about the animal toll, even if it is &quot;Mother Nature&quot; approved.  We humans have something that Mother Nature probably never intended- a heart.  The ability to rise above nature&#039;s standards in this case would truly be an amazing thing.  If you truly KNEW that the fake meat was nutritionally no different than real meat, would you continue to demand animal sacrifices?  Just an interesting thing to think about.

I understand your mistrust, even downright hatred, of man&#039;s meddling with nature.  But as for our current predicament, I see it as not so much a result of our &quot;trust in science&quot;, but more of a result of either negligence or downright conspiracy.  I don&#039;t think things had to turn out the way they have, and so often it feels as though there&#039;s a tangible force going AGAINST public interest.  The public might be okay with what&#039;s going on because of a &quot;trust in science&quot;, but this is really a misplaced trust in the people who are supposedly using &quot;science&quot; to assure us everything is okay.  If we look at the real science, as pointed out again in this blog post, it&#039;s often the opposite of what the &quot;experts&quot; are telling us.

One of the reasons I&#039;ve been so impressed with the Weston A Price Foundation, despite their call to return to traditional foods and lifestyles, is their respect and hopeful stance towards science and technology.  &quot;Technology as Servant, Science as Counselor, Knowledge as Guide&quot;, they have printed on the front of their journal.  These things can be very useful, but with caution of course, and in the right hands.  I know I would be VERY suspicious if they came out with some kind of grown meat in today&#039;s time, where cheapness would be valued over quality.  But I don&#039;t think quality is impossible.  It might take a lot of refinement, and maybe even lead to a few new discoveries along the way, but to me it is biologically plausible to make it just as good as real thing.  Just think of the precision that is required to control explosions that can smoothly move a car, or to receive and interpret millions of ones and zeros a second to watch a video online.  These things were developed and refined over time.

Creating meat isn&#039;t a horrible idea-- at least, not &quot;nutritionally corrected&quot; meat, as Tom posted about recently.  It&#039;s just about growing cells.  Cells are amazing things that, under the right conditions, will build themselves, along with all of the great nutrition that people need.  The problem with &quot;science&quot; today and food manufacturing is that people either don&#039;t know or are purposely disregarding what constitutes a healthy diet.  If we ever get the facts straight and have the will to do it right, harnessing nature in order to manufacture food (meat) is a noble goal.

(Related comic:  http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m happy to learn that they are experimenting with growing meat.  That&#8217;s been my own idea for some time now.  I figured, if they&#8217;re theorizing about making organs that are good enough to transplant, then wouldn&#8217;t those organs be good enough to eat?</p>
<p>With the ethical issue out of the way, vegetarians would finally have no reason not to eat meat.  And it really might come down to that for a lot of people.  I myself still feel bad about the animal toll, even if it is &#8220;Mother Nature&#8221; approved.  We humans have something that Mother Nature probably never intended- a heart.  The ability to rise above nature&#8217;s standards in this case would truly be an amazing thing.  If you truly KNEW that the fake meat was nutritionally no different than real meat, would you continue to demand animal sacrifices?  Just an interesting thing to think about.</p>
<p>I understand your mistrust, even downright hatred, of man&#8217;s meddling with nature.  But as for our current predicament, I see it as not so much a result of our &#8220;trust in science&#8221;, but more of a result of either negligence or downright conspiracy.  I don&#8217;t think things had to turn out the way they have, and so often it feels as though there&#8217;s a tangible force going AGAINST public interest.  The public might be okay with what&#8217;s going on because of a &#8220;trust in science&#8221;, but this is really a misplaced trust in the people who are supposedly using &#8220;science&#8221; to assure us everything is okay.  If we look at the real science, as pointed out again in this blog post, it&#8217;s often the opposite of what the &#8220;experts&#8221; are telling us.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I&#8217;ve been so impressed with the Weston A Price Foundation, despite their call to return to traditional foods and lifestyles, is their respect and hopeful stance towards science and technology.  &#8220;Technology as Servant, Science as Counselor, Knowledge as Guide&#8221;, they have printed on the front of their journal.  These things can be very useful, but with caution of course, and in the right hands.  I know I would be VERY suspicious if they came out with some kind of grown meat in today&#8217;s time, where cheapness would be valued over quality.  But I don&#8217;t think quality is impossible.  It might take a lot of refinement, and maybe even lead to a few new discoveries along the way, but to me it is biologically plausible to make it just as good as real thing.  Just think of the precision that is required to control explosions that can smoothly move a car, or to receive and interpret millions of ones and zeros a second to watch a video online.  These things were developed and refined over time.</p>
<p>Creating meat isn&#8217;t a horrible idea&#8211; at least, not &#8220;nutritionally corrected&#8221; meat, as Tom posted about recently.  It&#8217;s just about growing cells.  Cells are amazing things that, under the right conditions, will build themselves, along with all of the great nutrition that people need.  The problem with &#8220;science&#8221; today and food manufacturing is that people either don&#8217;t know or are purposely disregarding what constitutes a healthy diet.  If we ever get the facts straight and have the will to do it right, harnessing nature in order to manufacture food (meat) is a noble goal.</p>
<p>(Related comic:  <a href="http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case someone hasn&#039;t mentioned it already, sardines are pretty fatty fish. 

The thing that I still don&#039;t get is that little things like facts don&#039;t even get in the way of dogma. Out of all the fats, the mono-unsaturates have been pretty much been shown to be neutral fats, if not protective. Yet pretty much all animal fat, with the exception of dairy, is 50% or more mono-unsaturated. Pork and beef are about 50% mono-unsaturated. Poultry is generally 70% mono-unsaturated. Even the much vaunted olive oil is only about 80% mono-unsaturated. 

I don&#039;t get the point of trying to make animal protein in a lab. They would be better off working on more humane ways of slaughter. Of course we have people like Dr. Temple Grandin who are doing just that.

&lt;em&gt;Yup, lard is full of monosaturates, and much of what&#039;s not monosaturated will raise your HDL.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case someone hasn&#8217;t mentioned it already, sardines are pretty fatty fish. </p>
<p>The thing that I still don&#8217;t get is that little things like facts don&#8217;t even get in the way of dogma. Out of all the fats, the mono-unsaturates have been pretty much been shown to be neutral fats, if not protective. Yet pretty much all animal fat, with the exception of dairy, is 50% or more mono-unsaturated. Pork and beef are about 50% mono-unsaturated. Poultry is generally 70% mono-unsaturated. Even the much vaunted olive oil is only about 80% mono-unsaturated. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the point of trying to make animal protein in a lab. They would be better off working on more humane ways of slaughter. Of course we have people like Dr. Temple Grandin who are doing just that.</p>
<p><em>Yup, lard is full of monosaturates, and much of what&#8217;s not monosaturated will raise your HDL.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Paul451</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while back Dr. Eades blog had a 40 or 50 year old clip of Jack LaLane telling his viewers &quot;If man made it, DONT EAT IT!&quot;. 

Truer words have never been spoken.

On a totally different subject...what&#039;s this about Alton Brown on The Food Network losing 45 lbs in 5 months eating mostly sardines?? Hey, that&#039;s low carb, isnt it? Weird. But low carb.


&lt;em&gt;Sounds low-carb to me&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back Dr. Eades blog had a 40 or 50 year old clip of Jack LaLane telling his viewers &#8220;If man made it, DONT EAT IT!&#8221;. </p>
<p>Truer words have never been spoken.</p>
<p>On a totally different subject&#8230;what&#8217;s this about Alton Brown on The Food Network losing 45 lbs in 5 months eating mostly sardines?? Hey, that&#8217;s low carb, isnt it? Weird. But low carb.</p>
<p><em>Sounds low-carb to me</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archives of Internal Medicine:
&quot;Insufficient evidence (2 criteria) of association is present for intake of supplementary vitamin E and ascorbic acid (vitamin C); saturated and polyunsaturated fatty acids; total fat; -linolenic acid; meat; eggs; and milk.&quot;

Tom...aren&#039;t polyunsaturated fats supposed to be the bad guys, and Omega 3 fats the good guys.  According to the above study, both did not appear to have any affect on heart disease.

&lt;em&gt;What&#039;s interesting is that the results are all over the place.  Some studies claimed polyunsaturated oils were protective, others said not.  Since most people think they&#039;re good, they may be consumed by a greater proportion of health-conscious people.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archives of Internal Medicine:<br />
&#8220;Insufficient evidence (2 criteria) of association is present for intake of supplementary vitamin E and ascorbic acid (vitamin C); saturated and polyunsaturated fatty acids; total fat; -linolenic acid; meat; eggs; and milk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom&#8230;aren&#8217;t polyunsaturated fats supposed to be the bad guys, and Omega 3 fats the good guys.  According to the above study, both did not appear to have any affect on heart disease.</p>
<p><em>What&#8217;s interesting is that the results are all over the place.  Some studies claimed polyunsaturated oils were protective, others said not.  Since most people think they&#8217;re good, they may be consumed by a greater proportion of health-conscious people.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ted Hutchinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://metabolismsociety.org/App_Themes/Images/AboutFat/Siri-Tarino%20SAFA%20CVD%20Risk.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease&lt;/a&gt; Patty W Siri-Tarino, Qi Sun, Frank B Hu, and Ronald M Krauss
In case anyone isn’t aware the full text of the Krauss meta analysis is online (PDF) at the above link thanks to Nutrition &amp; Metabolism Society

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the links.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://metabolismsociety.org/App_Themes/Images/AboutFat/Siri-Tarino%20SAFA%20CVD%20Risk.pdf" rel="nofollow">Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease</a> Patty W Siri-Tarino, Qi Sun, Frank B Hu, and Ronald M Krauss<br />
In case anyone isn’t aware the full text of the Krauss meta analysis is online (PDF) at the above link thanks to Nutrition &amp; Metabolism Society</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the links.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Trenton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom... this is only barely related, but as far as phony foods from unnatural sources go, I thought you would both appreciate and be terrified by this nonsense I saw over at engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/the-cornucopia-mits-3d-food-printer-patiently-awaits-the-futu/

Talk about Yikes!

&lt;em&gt;Yee-uck.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom&#8230; this is only barely related, but as far as phony foods from unnatural sources go, I thought you would both appreciate and be terrified by this nonsense I saw over at engadget:<br />
<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/the-cornucopia-mits-3d-food-printer-patiently-awaits-the-futu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/the-cornucopia-mits-3d-food-printer-patiently-awaits-the-futu/</a></p>
<p>Talk about Yikes!</p>
<p><em>Yee-uck.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Cathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I brought this up to my students last night in my stats class. About how the food industry has lied to us the past 30 years about the low fat/low protein diet. Several of my students informed me that they had to change their diet because of kidney disease, heart disease, and other problems. One student informed me that she kicked grains out of her family&#039;s diet because she noticed that her son would go &quot;bonkers in what his teachers called ADHD&quot; when he ate cereals and breads. So now she feeds him cheese, nuts, fruit, eggs, bacon and &quot;surprisingly, he&#039;s the best kid in class now!&quot; 

Thanks for reiterating what mainstream media doesn&#039;t want us to know.

&lt;em&gt;We notice the difference with our kids too.  I feel sorry for parents who are misinformed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I brought this up to my students last night in my stats class. About how the food industry has lied to us the past 30 years about the low fat/low protein diet. Several of my students informed me that they had to change their diet because of kidney disease, heart disease, and other problems. One student informed me that she kicked grains out of her family&#8217;s diet because she noticed that her son would go &#8220;bonkers in what his teachers called ADHD&#8221; when he ate cereals and breads. So now she feeds him cheese, nuts, fruit, eggs, bacon and &#8220;surprisingly, he&#8217;s the best kid in class now!&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks for reiterating what mainstream media doesn&#8217;t want us to know.</p>
<p><em>We notice the difference with our kids too.  I feel sorry for parents who are misinformed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: darMA</title>
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		<dc:creator>darMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After many decades of observation, I came to the conclusion long ago that if mankind disappears from the face of the earth, it&#039;ll be because of his arrogant insistence that he can do much better than mother nature, combined with his unfortunate love of convenience.  Plants, animals and humans were doing just fine following nature&#039;s ways before man stuck his clammy little fingers into mother nature&#039;s business and started rearranging, &quot;new and improving&quot;  and mucking it all up.  I wish today&#039;s scientists could all be forced to hear that old &quot;It&#039;s not nice to fool Mother Nature&quot; commercial over and over day in/day out until the truth in it sinks in.

I found this  downright scary story from a purported dairy farmer on a forum.  I have no idea if it&#039;s the God&#039;s honest truth but I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised.  

&quot;Here’s the biased scoop from my own personal experience. I own an operational 65 cow dairy farm. I used monsanto GMO corn because it did exactly what it said. I could no til plant early in the season, spray with roundup and wait 120 days to harvest. The corn actually increased yield, energy, and profitability… and it worked excellently for 3 years. But then last fall my cows started dying from what looked to be milk fever and ketosis. After necropsy samples were tested at State College i found my herd had fatty liver disease. – which is funny because my cows were not fat. Further testing showed mycotoxins in the liver and kidney – which is funny because I own a closed herd. These mycotoxins did not come from the hay, the grain, or any other site we tested. They came from the corn silage. This mycotoxin did not come from a mold. It came from the corn itself.- which is funny because GMO corn is &quot;safe&quot;. Or so they tell me. I lost 24 cows last fall and nearly went out of business because of Monsanto’s product. Which isn’t very funny.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Yup.  Our arrogance will kill us.  Mother Nature knows what food is supposed to be.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After many decades of observation, I came to the conclusion long ago that if mankind disappears from the face of the earth, it&#8217;ll be because of his arrogant insistence that he can do much better than mother nature, combined with his unfortunate love of convenience.  Plants, animals and humans were doing just fine following nature&#8217;s ways before man stuck his clammy little fingers into mother nature&#8217;s business and started rearranging, &#8220;new and improving&#8221;  and mucking it all up.  I wish today&#8217;s scientists could all be forced to hear that old &#8220;It&#8217;s not nice to fool Mother Nature&#8221; commercial over and over day in/day out until the truth in it sinks in.</p>
<p>I found this  downright scary story from a purported dairy farmer on a forum.  I have no idea if it&#8217;s the God&#8217;s honest truth but I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Here’s the biased scoop from my own personal experience. I own an operational 65 cow dairy farm. I used monsanto GMO corn because it did exactly what it said. I could no til plant early in the season, spray with roundup and wait 120 days to harvest. The corn actually increased yield, energy, and profitability… and it worked excellently for 3 years. But then last fall my cows started dying from what looked to be milk fever and ketosis. After necropsy samples were tested at State College i found my herd had fatty liver disease. – which is funny because my cows were not fat. Further testing showed mycotoxins in the liver and kidney – which is funny because I own a closed herd. These mycotoxins did not come from the hay, the grain, or any other site we tested. They came from the corn silage. This mycotoxin did not come from a mold. It came from the corn itself.- which is funny because GMO corn is &#8220;safe&#8221;. Or so they tell me. I lost 24 cows last fall and nearly went out of business because of Monsanto’s product. Which isn’t very funny.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Yup.  Our arrogance will kill us.  Mother Nature knows what food is supposed to be.</em></p>
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