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		<title>By: Ezra Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezra Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recommend Tom and some of the Doctors go on Oprah together.


Here is the Oprah.com form.

https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp?plugId=216

&lt;em&gt;We're working on that one.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recommend Tom and some of the Doctors go on Oprah together.</p>
<p>Here is the Oprah.com form.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp?plugId=216" rel="nofollow">https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp?plugId=216</a></p>
<p><em>We&#8217;re working on that one.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and, I'm 35.  Another piece of anecdotal data.  I did not have a single solitary gray hair until I was 31.  At the same time my gray began appearing, I had put on a huge amount of weight and suddenly looked haggard.  Creases had appeared under my left eye (yes, just my left eye--I sleep mostly on my left side since my daughter was born) and I had a lot more discoloration in my face than previously.

Makes no sense that it would all hit me so fast but most of the weight I gained was abdominal.  I have no health insurance but I don't think I am diabetic yet--however, I'm likely prediabetic.  This stuff is taking its toll on me already.  I come from a line of women who age late and tend to age well, IF they take care of themselves.  Of course that's been hard to do on a low income--my life's recently taken a turn for the better and hopefully I'll get a handle on it now.  I don't mind the gray hair, I just mind what it portends.  My mom wasn't graying yet in her mid-thirties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and, I&#8217;m 35.  Another piece of anecdotal data.  I did not have a single solitary gray hair until I was 31.  At the same time my gray began appearing, I had put on a huge amount of weight and suddenly looked haggard.  Creases had appeared under my left eye (yes, just my left eye&#8211;I sleep mostly on my left side since my daughter was born) and I had a lot more discoloration in my face than previously.</p>
<p>Makes no sense that it would all hit me so fast but most of the weight I gained was abdominal.  I have no health insurance but I don&#8217;t think I am diabetic yet&#8211;however, I&#8217;m likely prediabetic.  This stuff is taking its toll on me already.  I come from a line of women who age late and tend to age well, IF they take care of themselves.  Of course that&#8217;s been hard to do on a low income&#8211;my life&#8217;s recently taken a turn for the better and hopefully I&#8217;ll get a handle on it now.  I don&#8217;t mind the gray hair, I just mind what it portends.  My mom wasn&#8217;t graying yet in her mid-thirties.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, I wrote about this (although I'm reworking the blog), and my take on it was of course you are going to find pancreatic cancer in a bunch of old people--it was an AARP study!  Older people are THE afflicted group for the vast majority of PC cases.

Re: gray hair and diabetes--Your joke is apt, and your friend's remark about diabetes appearing in older people is somewhat valid (though less and less so--at the rate we're going diabetes will be a disease of twentysomethings and we'll be seeing a lot more older people without their feet), but diabetes is also associated with *accelerated* aging, so someone who might have gone gray in their sixties is doing it in their forties instead.

My dad has been slow to gray for most of his adult life despite having jet-black hair which statistically begins graying in one's teens for most white folks with that hair color.  So he's always had at least a few strands.  But up until the early 2000s his hair was still mostly black.  Then I went to stay with him for a while at the beginning of 2006 and I swear, in five years it looked like he had aged ten to twenty.  He looked more brittle and he had a LOT more gray.  I saw him once more in 2007 and haven't seen him since, but he had an episode of blood loss last year and my brother tells me he's even worse since then.  He was born in 1951.  He's not *that* old.  He was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in late 2005.

So there you go, I know what anecdotal evidence is worth but anyway.  And yeah, Grecian formula would have done him about as much good as the anemic salad veggies and margarine his doctor told him to eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I wrote about this (although I&#8217;m reworking the blog), and my take on it was of course you are going to find pancreatic cancer in a bunch of old people&#8211;it was an AARP study!  Older people are THE afflicted group for the vast majority of PC cases.</p>
<p>Re: gray hair and diabetes&#8211;Your joke is apt, and your friend&#8217;s remark about diabetes appearing in older people is somewhat valid (though less and less so&#8211;at the rate we&#8217;re going diabetes will be a disease of twentysomethings and we&#8217;ll be seeing a lot more older people without their feet), but diabetes is also associated with *accelerated* aging, so someone who might have gone gray in their sixties is doing it in their forties instead.</p>
<p>My dad has been slow to gray for most of his adult life despite having jet-black hair which statistically begins graying in one&#8217;s teens for most white folks with that hair color.  So he&#8217;s always had at least a few strands.  But up until the early 2000s his hair was still mostly black.  Then I went to stay with him for a while at the beginning of 2006 and I swear, in five years it looked like he had aged ten to twenty.  He looked more brittle and he had a LOT more gray.  I saw him once more in 2007 and haven&#8217;t seen him since, but he had an episode of blood loss last year and my brother tells me he&#8217;s even worse since then.  He was born in 1951.  He&#8217;s not *that* old.  He was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in late 2005.</p>
<p>So there you go, I know what anecdotal evidence is worth but anyway.  And yeah, Grecian formula would have done him about as much good as the anemic salad veggies and margarine his doctor told him to eat.</p>
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		<title>By: Gita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Does watching Fat Head at least three times give you a high IQ?  Uh … no.  But I’d like to think there’s a strong statistical correlation."

I have noticed that people who don't get the point after seeing the movie are not too bright.  Would you believe that a couple of people that my mom showed the movie to concluded that you must have been paid by McDonalds to make the movie as a promotion.

As a side note, the DVD I sent to my stepson ran for an hour and then had problems.  Amazon is sending a replacement, so it is not a problem.  It may just be a fluke.

&lt;em&gt;That's the second time I've heard about a faulty DVD, so I'm going to alert the distributors.  All the ones I've played have been fine, but the printing plant may be having quality-control issues.

I've had a few people comment in print that I must've been paid by McDonald's -- one was suspicious because there was so much McDonald's "imagery" in the film.  Let's see, I declare from the start that I'm going to eat all fast food for month, mostly McDonald's, and wouldn't you know it, their images show up in the film.  Shocking.

My accountant probably wishes McDonald's had paid me, but other than granting me permission to shoot in their restaurants (which took some doing), they had diddly to do with it.  If they'd paid for this thing, they'd probably be handing out copies with Happy Meals right about now.&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does watching Fat Head at least three times give you a high IQ?  Uh … no.  But I’d like to think there’s a strong statistical correlation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have noticed that people who don&#8217;t get the point after seeing the movie are not too bright.  Would you believe that a couple of people that my mom showed the movie to concluded that you must have been paid by McDonalds to make the movie as a promotion.</p>
<p>As a side note, the DVD I sent to my stepson ran for an hour and then had problems.  Amazon is sending a replacement, so it is not a problem.  It may just be a fluke.</p>
<p><em>That&#8217;s the second time I&#8217;ve heard about a faulty DVD, so I&#8217;m going to alert the distributors.  All the ones I&#8217;ve played have been fine, but the printing plant may be having quality-control issues.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a few people comment in print that I must&#8217;ve been paid by McDonald&#8217;s &#8212; one was suspicious because there was so much McDonald&#8217;s &#8220;imagery&#8221; in the film.  Let&#8217;s see, I declare from the start that I&#8217;m going to eat all fast food for month, mostly McDonald&#8217;s, and wouldn&#8217;t you know it, their images show up in the film.  Shocking.</p>
<p>My accountant probably wishes McDonald&#8217;s had paid me, but other than granting me permission to shoot in their restaurants (which took some doing), they had diddly to do with it.  If they&#8217;d paid for this thing, they&#8217;d probably be handing out copies with Happy Meals right about now.</em></p>
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		<title>By: TonyNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/2600932/Eat-to-your-good-health" rel="nofollow"&gt;OMG! Nuts are fatty but people who eat nuts have less heart disease, diabetes and obesity! WTF!? There must be something unidentified in nuts that is so good for you it counteracts the effect of the fatty horribleness!!!&lt;/a&gt;

And as for the foie gras can of worms, I never expected this sort of response, but there's been some good posts come from it.

&lt;em&gt;Don't worry, the experts will come with an ad-hoc theory to cover themselves.  Well, uh, it's not saturated animal fat you see, so, uh ... we'll get back to you on that.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/2600932/Eat-to-your-good-health" rel="nofollow">OMG! Nuts are fatty but people who eat nuts have less heart disease, diabetes and obesity! WTF!? There must be something unidentified in nuts that is so good for you it counteracts the effect of the fatty horribleness!!!</a></p>
<p>And as for the foie gras can of worms, I never expected this sort of response, but there&#8217;s been some good posts come from it.</p>
<p><em>Don&#8217;t worry, the experts will come with an ad-hoc theory to cover themselves.  Well, uh, it&#8217;s not saturated animal fat you see, so, uh &#8230; we&#8217;ll get back to you on that.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who is interested in foie gras production (pro or anti) really should watch this clip from Anthony Bourdain's show "No Reservatons:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABeWlY0KFv8

The ducks appear to be very well treated.  I imagine that this question applies to all animal products.  Some animal farms treat their animals very well indeed; others, not so much.  Choose sources wisely, and everyone (including the animals) benefit greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who is interested in foie gras production (pro or anti) really should watch this clip from Anthony Bourdain&#8217;s show &#8220;No Reservatons:&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABeWlY0KFv8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABeWlY0KFv8</a></p>
<p>The ducks appear to be very well treated.  I imagine that this question applies to all animal products.  Some animal farms treat their animals very well indeed; others, not so much.  Choose sources wisely, and everyone (including the animals) benefit greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: gallier2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gallier2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stressed ducks and geese do not produce foie gras. I've seen several time how the birds allign to get their shot of maize, if they hated it they probably wouldn't. 
You have to see that foie gras is not really unnatural, it's their way of accumumating fat for the long migration flights. If the birds put it subcuteanously like us, they wouldn't be able to fly anymore so they developped this strategy which allows then the liver to break it down as necessary. 
Foie gras is only the best source of Vitamin K2 also it is order of magnitude better than anything else for that (this may explain why the south-western french have so much less cardiac problems than the rest of France).
And it tastes so incredibly good (when done right)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stressed ducks and geese do not produce foie gras. I&#8217;ve seen several time how the birds allign to get their shot of maize, if they hated it they probably wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
You have to see that foie gras is not really unnatural, it&#8217;s their way of accumumating fat for the long migration flights. If the birds put it subcuteanously like us, they wouldn&#8217;t be able to fly anymore so they developped this strategy which allows then the liver to break it down as necessary.<br />
Foie gras is only the best source of Vitamin K2 also it is order of magnitude better than anything else for that (this may explain why the south-western french have so much less cardiac problems than the rest of France).<br />
And it tastes so incredibly good (when done right)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TonyNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. X, I work in agriculture, I agree with you 100% on the cruelty issue. Stress hormones give you less and worse product at the end, so you want your animals (in my case, cows) to be as content and happy as possible. These people that think that farmers are horrible exploitative creature-beaters couldn't be further from the truth.

And as for foie gras, I'm sure they don't make it violent for kicks for the above reasons (and they are probably even more anxious to make a point of no unnecessary mistreatment given the stigma associated with it). I have nothing against farmers or eaters of foie gras and have no problem with them continuing with it. I just don't like foie gras that much and given the procedures of it's production, would much prefer a marbled steak (which is achieved by similar means). Someone who actually likes foie gras would obviously be much more interested in keeping it available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. X, I work in agriculture, I agree with you 100% on the cruelty issue. Stress hormones give you less and worse product at the end, so you want your animals (in my case, cows) to be as content and happy as possible. These people that think that farmers are horrible exploitative creature-beaters couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth.</p>
<p>And as for foie gras, I&#8217;m sure they don&#8217;t make it violent for kicks for the above reasons (and they are probably even more anxious to make a point of no unnecessary mistreatment given the stigma associated with it). I have nothing against farmers or eaters of foie gras and have no problem with them continuing with it. I just don&#8217;t like foie gras that much and given the procedures of it&#8217;s production, would much prefer a marbled steak (which is achieved by similar means). Someone who actually likes foie gras would obviously be much more interested in keeping it available.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TonyNZ - remember ducks/geese are birds.  Just because you assume gavage would be horrible, doesn't necessarily mean they feel the same way.

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/foie-gras-cest-moi/
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29iht-eddownes.html?_r=1

Just because something *can* be done cruelly doesn't mean it is.  Almost everything we do with our treatment of animals can be done cruelly.  Very little of it actually is.

http://everydogsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tied-up-in-nots.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TonyNZ - remember ducks/geese are birds.  Just because you assume gavage would be horrible, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they feel the same way.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/foie-gras-cest-moi/" rel="nofollow">http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/foie-gras-cest-moi/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29iht-eddownes.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29iht-eddownes.html?_r=1</a></p>
<p>Just because something *can* be done cruelly doesn&#8217;t mean it is.  Almost everything we do with our treatment of animals can be done cruelly.  Very little of it actually is.</p>
<p><a href="http://everydogsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tied-up-in-nots.html" rel="nofollow">http://everydogsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/tied-up-in-nots.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen this?-

http://www.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=629014

"Lower IQ Linked to Higher Risk of Heart Deaths 
Public health messages should be simplified, study finds" 


Apparently everyone is dying from heart disease because they're too stupid to understand the solution.

&lt;em&gt;Yes, it takes a highly intelligent person to understand "Eat a low-fat diet."  That must be it.  

Good grief, they'll never admit they were just plain wrong about this.  Lower IQ people are generally poorer, and poorer people consume more cheap carbohydrates.  But they'll never look at that possibility.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen this?-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=629014" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=629014</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Lower IQ Linked to Higher Risk of Heart Deaths<br />
Public health messages should be simplified, study finds&#8221; </p>
<p>Apparently everyone is dying from heart disease because they&#8217;re too stupid to understand the solution.</p>
<p><em>Yes, it takes a highly intelligent person to understand &#8220;Eat a low-fat diet.&#8221;  That must be it.  </p>
<p>Good grief, they&#8217;ll never admit they were just plain wrong about this.  Lower IQ people are generally poorer, and poorer people consume more cheap carbohydrates.  But they&#8217;ll never look at that possibility.</em></p>
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