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		<title>By: Rebecca Foxworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Foxworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to all this &quot;high fat/low cal&quot; thinking, but please correct me if I&#039;m wrong.

Gary Taubes&#039; books, which are referenced in the Recommended Reading section, essentially state that &quot;calories in=calories&quot; out is a bad and incorrect equation.

In the movie (which shocked me, which I loved, and which my CHILDREN have begged to watch twice in two days), you yourself lost twice as much weight as the &quot;calories in=calories out&quot; equation said you should have expected to lose.

If the excess consumption of carbohydrates can trigger excess insulin to block many of those calories from being burned as energy, and instead store a greater percentage of those calories as fat, couldn&#039;t the high carbohydrate consumption (and FAST burning carbs, as opposed to the slower whole carbs he was used to processing) combined with the extra calories he was eating from fat (which he likely didn&#039;t eat much of on a low-fat, vegan diet) have produced greater weight gain than expected? Isn&#039;t the whole premise of lower-carb, higher-fat eating that the composition of your food DOES matter?

I have no idea if Spurlock cheated or not. I&#039;m just wondering, if the math doesn&#039;t &quot;add up&quot;, couldn&#039;t it be because, as Taubes and others have explained, the &quot;calories in=calories out&quot; equation is vastly oversimplified.

Truly curious. Not disagreeing with you. Just curious whether that could be a possible explanation.

&lt;em&gt;If we were going only by his weight gain, that could figure in.  But his nutritionist told him twice on camera that he was consuming more than 5000 calories per day.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to all this &#8220;high fat/low cal&#8221; thinking, but please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>Gary Taubes&#8217; books, which are referenced in the Recommended Reading section, essentially state that &#8220;calories in=calories&#8221; out is a bad and incorrect equation.</p>
<p>In the movie (which shocked me, which I loved, and which my CHILDREN have begged to watch twice in two days), you yourself lost twice as much weight as the &#8220;calories in=calories out&#8221; equation said you should have expected to lose.</p>
<p>If the excess consumption of carbohydrates can trigger excess insulin to block many of those calories from being burned as energy, and instead store a greater percentage of those calories as fat, couldn&#8217;t the high carbohydrate consumption (and FAST burning carbs, as opposed to the slower whole carbs he was used to processing) combined with the extra calories he was eating from fat (which he likely didn&#8217;t eat much of on a low-fat, vegan diet) have produced greater weight gain than expected? Isn&#8217;t the whole premise of lower-carb, higher-fat eating that the composition of your food DOES matter?</p>
<p>I have no idea if Spurlock cheated or not. I&#8217;m just wondering, if the math doesn&#8217;t &#8220;add up&#8221;, couldn&#8217;t it be because, as Taubes and others have explained, the &#8220;calories in=calories out&#8221; equation is vastly oversimplified.</p>
<p>Truly curious. Not disagreeing with you. Just curious whether that could be a possible explanation.</p>
<p><em>If we were going only by his weight gain, that could figure in.  But his nutritionist told him twice on camera that he was consuming more than 5000 calories per day.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part in the whole debacle is how they glossed over the part where the nutritionist clearly tells him he&#039;s drinking too many calories. Unless he&#039;s putting cheeseburgers in a blender, obviously doesn&#039;t have anything to do with what he&#039;s drinking. Even the die-hard lipophobs have to admit that. Off for a lovely marbled- steak and broccoli dinner! 

PS
I got my dad your wheat is murder t-shirt for Father&#039;s Day. Best.Present.Ever.

&lt;em&gt;Outstanding.  I hope he likes it.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part in the whole debacle is how they glossed over the part where the nutritionist clearly tells him he&#8217;s drinking too many calories. Unless he&#8217;s putting cheeseburgers in a blender, obviously doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with what he&#8217;s drinking. Even the die-hard lipophobs have to admit that. Off for a lovely marbled- steak and broccoli dinner! </p>
<p>PS<br />
I got my dad your wheat is murder t-shirt for Father&#8217;s Day. Best.Present.Ever.</p>
<p><em>Outstanding.  I hope he likes it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL some of those cracked me up. However, I have to say, not necessarily all of them liked Super-Size Me or even really disagree with you. I&#039;m a debater myself, and if I saw an opening to debate you I would even though I totally agree Morgon Spurlock is a moron. Although I&#039;d probably say so, like that I agree with you but there&#039;s this loophole here or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL some of those cracked me up. However, I have to say, not necessarily all of them liked Super-Size Me or even really disagree with you. I&#8217;m a debater myself, and if I saw an opening to debate you I would even though I totally agree Morgon Spurlock is a moron. Although I&#8217;d probably say so, like that I agree with you but there&#8217;s this loophole here or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: John Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part of &quot;Super Size Me&quot; is when the vegan gf starts to complain about Spurlock&#039;s performance in bed.  She blames how saturated fat is blocking penis blood flow and negatively affecting erection.  Jesus, yesterday, saturated fat is clogging our arteries and now it can clog your penis veins too disallowing you of an erection.  Talk about &quot;Fox News&quot; science.

&lt;em&gt;The irony is that saturated fat raises your testosterone.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of &#8220;Super Size Me&#8221; is when the vegan gf starts to complain about Spurlock&#8217;s performance in bed.  She blames how saturated fat is blocking penis blood flow and negatively affecting erection.  Jesus, yesterday, saturated fat is clogging our arteries and now it can clog your penis veins too disallowing you of an erection.  Talk about &#8220;Fox News&#8221; science.</p>
<p><em>The irony is that saturated fat raises your testosterone.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 05:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It often goes together. If they would not be incompetent, they would be aware of it. And it is not restricted to the net. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

&lt;em&gt;Very good article.  I guess it&#039;s like people who are so tone deaf, they don&#039;t know they can&#039;t sing.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It often goes together. If they would not be incompetent, they would be aware of it. And it is not restricted to the net. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</a></p>
<p><em>Very good article.  I guess it&#8217;s like people who are so tone deaf, they don&#8217;t know they can&#8217;t sing.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Paco Wové</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paco Wové</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Whether or not he was honest, he did make a good point...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;As for the ethics of him lying or not, I don’t care...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Comments like this boggle my mind. &quot;It&#039;s ok if he lies to me, as long as he says what I want to hear.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;I guess people have gotten so used to seeing facts twisted in news shows and documentaries, it doesn&#039;t even bother them anymore.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Whether or not he was honest, he did make a good point&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;As for the ethics of him lying or not, I don’t care&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Comments like this boggle my mind. &#8220;It&#8217;s ok if he lies to me, as long as he says what I want to hear.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>I guess people have gotten so used to seeing facts twisted in news shows and documentaries, it doesn&#8217;t even bother them anymore.</em></p>
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		<title>By: TonyNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall, did he do any fat tests, to see what his weight gain was?

Plenty of fat goes through the digestive system. You get more &quot;floaters&quot; when you eat lots of fat.

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t recall anything in the movie that would indicate how much of his weight gain was fat, as opposed to muscle or water.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall, did he do any fat tests, to see what his weight gain was?</p>
<p>Plenty of fat goes through the digestive system. You get more &#8220;floaters&#8221; when you eat lots of fat.</p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t recall anything in the movie that would indicate how much of his weight gain was fat, as opposed to muscle or water.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could have eaten 3500 calories a day and gained all that weight.  The carb intake, remember?  Most of the McD&#039;s menu is sugar and starch.  I notice that when people are complaining bitterly about the fat and sodium, almost none of them have anything to say about the potatoes, the bread, the milk (for its lactose--and there is no whole milk served at McD&#039;s), or the sugar.

You can&#039;t use simple math to tell what&#039;s going on with human metabolism because we simply don&#039;t know enough about that yet.  For instance, either people don&#039;t understand what calorie theory actually states or calorie theory is based on nonsense, because you never burn every &quot;calorie&quot; you eat.  (A calorie isn&#039;t even a real food ingredient.  It&#039;s a human-invented measurement, like an inch.)  Fat and protein go into things like cell membranes, DNA synthesis, hormone production, and so on.  If you use those &quot;calories&quot; for building, you will not burn them for energy.  And we have no way of knowing how much of a given meal goes into rebuilding and how much into energy.

Except the carbs.  They aren&#039;t used for anything but energy.  If we can&#039;t use them for energy, they wind up in fat tissue or they wind up in the toilet (as with fiber).  You can&#039;t leave all that glucose floating around in your bloodstream or you will go the way of the untreated diabetic.  So the body does something with it as quickly as possible.

This is why the LC diet gurus tell us to count carbs.  That&#039;s where you will really see a difference if you lower the count.

Dietary fat, as far as I can tell and probably as far as anyone knows, is only going to be stored as fat if you&#039;re intaking enough sugar to make enough glycerol to turn that fat into triglycerides.  Drop the carb intake and you have no central axis for the triglyceride and either your body does something with the dietary fat or excretes it--there is virtually no storage.  This is why traditional Inuit didn&#039;t get fat--they had round faces and they wore bulky clothes, but Steffansson said that under the bulky clothes they were of a normal weight range.  And most of what they ate was fat!

&lt;em&gt;Maybe he could gain that much weight on 3500 calories, but I doubt it.  He was a healthy young male going into it, and also lived on his girlfriend&#039;s vegetarian meals, which means he probably consumed a lot of carbs before.  I think it&#039;s unlikely his basal metabolic rate dropped to 500-600 calories per day, which is what would be required to store 25 pounds of fat in 30 days on a 3500-calorie diet.

And it still doesn&#039;t explain why he didn&#039;t correct the nutritionist when she told him -- twice, on camera -- that he was consuming more than 5,000 calories per day.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could have eaten 3500 calories a day and gained all that weight.  The carb intake, remember?  Most of the McD&#8217;s menu is sugar and starch.  I notice that when people are complaining bitterly about the fat and sodium, almost none of them have anything to say about the potatoes, the bread, the milk (for its lactose&#8211;and there is no whole milk served at McD&#8217;s), or the sugar.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t use simple math to tell what&#8217;s going on with human metabolism because we simply don&#8217;t know enough about that yet.  For instance, either people don&#8217;t understand what calorie theory actually states or calorie theory is based on nonsense, because you never burn every &#8220;calorie&#8221; you eat.  (A calorie isn&#8217;t even a real food ingredient.  It&#8217;s a human-invented measurement, like an inch.)  Fat and protein go into things like cell membranes, DNA synthesis, hormone production, and so on.  If you use those &#8220;calories&#8221; for building, you will not burn them for energy.  And we have no way of knowing how much of a given meal goes into rebuilding and how much into energy.</p>
<p>Except the carbs.  They aren&#8217;t used for anything but energy.  If we can&#8217;t use them for energy, they wind up in fat tissue or they wind up in the toilet (as with fiber).  You can&#8217;t leave all that glucose floating around in your bloodstream or you will go the way of the untreated diabetic.  So the body does something with it as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>This is why the LC diet gurus tell us to count carbs.  That&#8217;s where you will really see a difference if you lower the count.</p>
<p>Dietary fat, as far as I can tell and probably as far as anyone knows, is only going to be stored as fat if you&#8217;re intaking enough sugar to make enough glycerol to turn that fat into triglycerides.  Drop the carb intake and you have no central axis for the triglyceride and either your body does something with the dietary fat or excretes it&#8211;there is virtually no storage.  This is why traditional Inuit didn&#8217;t get fat&#8211;they had round faces and they wore bulky clothes, but Steffansson said that under the bulky clothes they were of a normal weight range.  And most of what they ate was fat!</p>
<p><em>Maybe he could gain that much weight on 3500 calories, but I doubt it.  He was a healthy young male going into it, and also lived on his girlfriend&#8217;s vegetarian meals, which means he probably consumed a lot of carbs before.  I think it&#8217;s unlikely his basal metabolic rate dropped to 500-600 calories per day, which is what would be required to store 25 pounds of fat in 30 days on a 3500-calorie diet.</p>
<p>And it still doesn&#8217;t explain why he didn&#8217;t correct the nutritionist when she told him &#8212; twice, on camera &#8212; that he was consuming more than 5,000 calories per day.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s available on YouTube as well.  I&#039;m watching it right now, and I have it frozen on the food log for the brief second or two the itemized list is visible.  I can only see breakfast and part of lunch, but...

Breakfast:
1 Egg McMuffin
1 Coffee
1 Half and half creamer
1 Hash Brown
1 Sausage Biscuit
1 Orange Juice

Lunch:
1 Big Mac Hamburger
&quot;2.18 Servings&quot; Fries, Small (Probably used to indicate a larger size)
1 Chocolate Milkshake, Small
1 Coke

The last part visible is my favorite part...

&quot;Afternoon Snack&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Interesting.  That puts him at about 2800 for the day so far.  A QP w/cheese, large fries and large coke for dinner would put him just over 4100.  So to surpass 5000, he&#039;s going to need a heck of a snack, or an extra sandwich + dessert with dinner, or a big milkshake, which be his second milkshake of the day.

Once again, it adds up to super-sizing without being asked.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s available on YouTube as well.  I&#8217;m watching it right now, and I have it frozen on the food log for the brief second or two the itemized list is visible.  I can only see breakfast and part of lunch, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Breakfast:<br />
1 Egg McMuffin<br />
1 Coffee<br />
1 Half and half creamer<br />
1 Hash Brown<br />
1 Sausage Biscuit<br />
1 Orange Juice</p>
<p>Lunch:<br />
1 Big Mac Hamburger<br />
&#8220;2.18 Servings&#8221; Fries, Small (Probably used to indicate a larger size)<br />
1 Chocolate Milkshake, Small<br />
1 Coke</p>
<p>The last part visible is my favorite part&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Afternoon Snack&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Interesting.  That puts him at about 2800 for the day so far.  A QP w/cheese, large fries and large coke for dinner would put him just over 4100.  So to surpass 5000, he&#8217;s going to need a heck of a snack, or an extra sandwich + dessert with dinner, or a big milkshake, which be his second milkshake of the day.</p>
<p>Once again, it adds up to super-sizing without being asked.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still stunned at the Eades&#039; photo of Ancel Keys
(father of  the low-fat, anti-cholesterol
recommendations fraud campaign) and
Jack LaLanne. So why do people give Keys credit for
living to 100?
    I think it comes down to what is optimal and  what
is the best diet for us. There is definitely a lot
of leeway about what we can eat and still survive,
even to very old age. THRIVING is another question
though. &quot;It isn&#039;t the years in your
life that matter, it&#039;s the life in your years&quot;. Dr.
Weil, the integrative medicine guru, introduced me to
a concept I really like. We all will die of something,
obviously, but his goal is to help us have &#039;compressed
morbidity&#039;. Which means you stay very healthy, vital and well
right up until you expire. That beats being old, infirm and wishing you were dead.
   In &quot;Good Calories,Bad Calories&quot;, in the hardback on page 361, is a photo of a woman with a very rare syndrome called lipodystrophy. The
woman is anorexic above the waist and obese below. The
reason Taubes included this is to show that a hormone
imbalance (most likely insulin) must be the cause of
this. Before I read the book, I had NO idea there was
NO research confirmation of the &#039;eat-less-fat&#039; dogma
and I had never heard of lipodystrophy. Photographs,  and documentaries,
are so powerful. My hypothesis of why LaLanne looks so vital and healthy at 93 and Keys doesn&#039;t look good is because Keys espoused low-fat and
most likely was poisoned by massive long-term insulin
production. It didn&#039;t kill him, but IT WOULD KILL ME
if I ate like he recommended.!
    (I&#039;m a biochemist, a mom, a lover of humor and a VORACIOUS reader, and much happier since I read Taubes&#039;, GCBC, last year because now I eat more brain enhancing FAT)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still stunned at the Eades&#8217; photo of Ancel Keys<br />
(father of  the low-fat, anti-cholesterol<br />
recommendations fraud campaign) and<br />
Jack LaLanne. So why do people give Keys credit for<br />
living to 100?<br />
    I think it comes down to what is optimal and  what<br />
is the best diet for us. There is definitely a lot<br />
of leeway about what we can eat and still survive,<br />
even to very old age. THRIVING is another question<br />
though. &#8220;It isn&#8217;t the years in your<br />
life that matter, it&#8217;s the life in your years&#8221;. Dr.<br />
Weil, the integrative medicine guru, introduced me to<br />
a concept I really like. We all will die of something,<br />
obviously, but his goal is to help us have &#8216;compressed<br />
morbidity&#8217;. Which means you stay very healthy, vital and well<br />
right up until you expire. That beats being old, infirm and wishing you were dead.<br />
   In &#8220;Good Calories,Bad Calories&#8221;, in the hardback on page 361, is a photo of a woman with a very rare syndrome called lipodystrophy. The<br />
woman is anorexic above the waist and obese below. The<br />
reason Taubes included this is to show that a hormone<br />
imbalance (most likely insulin) must be the cause of<br />
this. Before I read the book, I had NO idea there was<br />
NO research confirmation of the &#8216;eat-less-fat&#8217; dogma<br />
and I had never heard of lipodystrophy. Photographs,  and documentaries,<br />
are so powerful. My hypothesis of why LaLanne looks so vital and healthy at 93 and Keys doesn&#8217;t look good is because Keys espoused low-fat and<br />
most likely was poisoned by massive long-term insulin<br />
production. It didn&#8217;t kill him, but IT WOULD KILL ME<br />
if I ate like he recommended.!<br />
    (I&#8217;m a biochemist, a mom, a lover of humor and a VORACIOUS reader, and much happier since I read Taubes&#8217;, GCBC, last year because now I eat more brain enhancing FAT)</p>
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